OurWeek The Grant County Record in Grant County · Special meeting · 2025-07-08 · full transcript https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuUeizfKiag Exported Fri, 14 Aug 2026 22:37:26 GMT Source: YouTube automatic captions. Copied into the combined index from the marion-city-council-indexed report; same text, key prefixed by body. These transcripts are machine-generated. They garble proper nouns badly — company and personal names especially. Watch the recording before repeating any name, number, or quotation. The video is the record. ============================================================================== Indexed at https://ourweek.in/grant-county/reports/grant-county-record 1:45 Good evening. Today's July 8th, 2025. 1:48 This is the Marian Common Council special meeting for the food and beverage tax. We're in the Marian City Council chambers and 1:58 we're going to call this meeting to order and begin with roll call. Madame Deputy Clerk, go ahead. 2:04 Kain here. 2:05 Marshall here. 2:06 Forise here. 2:07 Brunner present. 2:08 Klein here. 2:09 Divine here. Whitten here. 2:11 Calgill here. 2:12 McKinley here. Okay. So, those that aren't familiar, this food and beverage tax second reading public hearing is 2:20 required to be the only item on the agenda, which is why we're having a special meeting tonight. Um, this is the 2:27 public hearing portion of it that we will open the microphone up once we get to that point. But, I just wanted to read just a few things. I'm sure everything's going to go smooth tonight. 2:37 Um but any kind of uh comments whether for or against we ask that you just address it directly to the council. If 2:47 somebody speaks previous to you maybe in in a different view or opposition to what you're thinking. We ask that you 2:54 not to address other people in the audience. This is for you to speak to the council tonight. I will read the decorum rules that the council adopted 3:03 last year. just says, "No person shall use violent or contemptuous language, behave in a disorderly manner, or refuse to obey the orders of the presiding 3:11 officer in the council room while the common council is in session. The presiding officer may order the sergeant-at-arms to remove anyone who 3:19 intentionally disturbs the decorum of a council meeting. The presiding officer may interrupt, warn, or terminate a person's statement when the statement is 3:27 too lengthy, abusive, obscene, or irrelevant. The presiding officer may call for a recess or an adjournment to another time when the lack of public 3:36 decorum interferes with the orderly conduct of the meeting to warrant such action. So, just want to make sure we read that. I'm sure everything's going 3:44 to go smooth and um but just want to make sure the baseline set on the expectations in the council chambers tonight. We're glad all of you could 3:52 make it tonight and we're going to go ahead and just dive right into the unfinished business portion of this agenda. General general ordinance 4:01 14-2025 food and beverage tax second reading and public hearing. 4:08 An ordinance of the city of Marian adopting a food and beverage tax. On or around May 6, 2025, Governor Brun signed 4:16 House Enrolled Act 1427, which among other items amended Indiana Code 6-9-21, 4:23 allowing the fiscal body of the city of Marian to impose an excise tax known as the city food and beverage tax. The food and beverage tax applies to a 4:31 transaction in which food and or beverage is furnished, prepared, or served for consumption at a location or on equipment provided by a retail 4:39 merchant in the city and by a retail merchant for consideration. The food and beverage tax rate may not exceed 1% of 4:47 the gross retail income received by the merchant from a qualifying food or beverage transaction. Money received by the city shall be distributed to the 4:55 city's food and beverage fund and only utilized for economic development, parks and recreation, andor pledging of money for bonds, leases, or other obligations. 5:04 Speaking mayor Ronald Morell. 5:08 Good evening, council. Um, thank you for gathering and um considering this um um this tax. 5:15 This is I I'll do a few different categories. The first category is going to be what and let's start there first. 5:20 So, what this is is a a luxury tax on um food and beverage consumed within the city of Marian city limits. So, if you 5:29 were to I'll use my favorite example. If you were to go out to eat at um let's say McDonald's and your bill was $20, 5:37 this tax would now make that bill $20.20. 5:42 that um 20 cents is estimated to bring the city a total of $1,50,000 a year. 5:53 So that's what the food and beverage tax is. This is cannot be used on on groceries. So if you go to Meyer, 6:00 Walmart, um Aldi or Rule or any other establishment or Horners, um the food that you prepare buy for groceries will 6:07 not be affected by this. However, if you go to Walmart or Meyer and you purchase the hot already prepared chicken, then 6:16 it will uh apply to that specifically only that um the the why. So, for those who don't 6:25 know, um the state passed what was known as Senate Bill One and this has affected 6:32 us greatly. And in my presentation yesterday, I kind of did an illustration and said that if you know, if this was the city of Marian and this was the 6:41 state, they just open hands smacked us probably as hard as they possibly could. 6:46 Um, I have the numbers in front of me to not bring any confusion. So, the city of Marion is set to lose 3,359,879. 6:58 And I'll round it off for you and say that's 10% of our budget. So 10% of everything that you love that we do or some of the things you feel like we're 7:06 lacking is then will have to be cut by 10%. So what this tax is is an effort to be able to recoup 7:16 some of those funds. Now I must also add um that this is not something that I want to do and I know it's not anything 7:23 that I don't want to speak for the council members but I know it's not something that they're looking for and they're smiling about doing either. But what has happened is as 7:31 happened in history before. Time and time again, the state does something on their level to make themselves look like 7:39 the heroes, but then passes the buck down to us locally to make us take the bullets for things that they decided to do. So, this is another one of those situations where the state has decided 7:47 to move in action without considering the city's functions or any city's functions, not just here. Um, and 7:54 it's put us in a a rock and a hard place and our back against the wall for myself and the city council to be able to have to make move forward and take action. 8:01 So, when we propose this, this is not just for some frivolous idea, but this is for the a need to be able to feel 8:08 what's going on in our city. So, um, that is the what and the why. And then, um, we'll talk about some of the things that the money can be spent on. So, 8:18 since I've been mayor for, I guess, 18 months now, there have 8:24 been four shootings involving 13 year olds to 18 year olds. Two resulting in 8:32 death and two not thankfully. Um, so two of the things that we're looking to 8:39 fund with these this money is dedicated towards youth and youth improvement in our city. One being the redevelopment of 8:49 uh Ballard Field and making that into a a youth sports complex dedicated to soccer. 8:56 The second being the skate park over at what's currently now called Hogan Park. 9:01 Um those are two initiatives that we're doing with the with these funds that are dedicated specifically towards improving the the well-being of our um next 9:10 generation, our youth. Um from an economic development standpoint, we have the airport in our community which is a crown jewel for the city of Marian. It 9:18 does many amazing things. um from this obviously it's normal functionality of airport stuff but then also um did you 9:26 know that we are pushing out and and graduating top pilots from the partnership between Marian Community Schools Grand County Regional Career 9:35 Center and um Indiana Westland. So it's function as an airport is normal function that also function as an 9:42 education hub but also uh it's a humongous event center for us ranging from the um 9:51 is called airship attack all the way to our tried and true beloved um pancake breakfast and the name is leaving my mind right now. I hate that flying 9:59 cruising. Yes. So, um, so what this another portion of this funds we're going to look to to use is to be able to 10:06 get the airport the adequate amount of sanitary and and water. So, our airport is currently functions on limited amount 10:14 of subject tank. So, with this with these funds, what we'll be able to do is position our airport to be able to grow and add in more hangers, bigger events, and etc. So, this that's one of the 10:23 economic development things we're going to use this for if it's successful. Um and then uh one more and then this is 10:31 really I mean it affects everyone but specifically in districts um four, five and six. The city of Marian from 33rd 10:38 Street to 50th Street has no parks. Now there's a various histories on why it happened and you know we can go into that if you like but from that chunk of 10:47 the city of Marion there's no parks. You have to walk or drive a long distance to get to the nearest park. So, what we're going to do is look into establish a new 10:56 park on that side of town. So, that's the what and the why and really the how we got into this situation. And I mean, 11:03 I know that um we as local leaders have we have to make the right decisions, but this is a decision that is not um 11:13 taken lightly or something that is we look and sought out to do. I want to 11:21 be clear as I can over and over again that this is a reactionary thing that we 11:29 are in a position that we have to do um or there's going to be some severe um cuts to the city of Maine. And so um I have like a 20 slide presentation I 11:38 could talk for a whole hour but I don't I don't want to take up the whole I don't want to take up the whole time because I I want to entertain your questions and also get to the public hearing as well. 11:48 Thank you mayor. Appreciate that. And um hopefully some people were able to attend your Q&A yesterday. I apologize. 11:54 I was ill. I wasn't make able to make it, but I knew I do know some of the council members were able to make it and hopefully those in the audience were able to make it as well. Um I did hear 12:03 it was very very informative. So thank you for holding that and being very transparent. So any council members with any questions for the mayor or 12:11 discussion before we open the public hearing? 12:17 All right. Thank you, mayor. Appreciate it. Okay. Okay, at this time we're going to go and open the public hearing. And I will tell you ahead of time. So, if 12:24 you're going to speak at the microphone, you must give your name, your address, and you only have three minutes. When the dinger goes off for three minutes, 12:31 your time is up, and then the next person will be able to speak. So, make sure you um address the council and then let us know whether you're in favor or 12:40 not. So, we'll open up the microphone if anyone would like to speak. 12:54 Good evening and welcome. Good evening. 12:58 Go ahead and turn the microphone on for me. Testing. 13:05 Good evening. My name is Dr. Stacy Hunt. 13:07 I live at 1215 North River Drive, Marian, Indiana. 13:14 Um, something that the mayor had said in his state of the city address was going from desperation to destination. 13:25 Because I work with the youth of Marian, Indiana, we know that we prepare students for life after school and we 13:33 prepare them to be citizens of the city of Marian Indiana because the majority of them stay in Marian Indiana or they 13:42 go and come back like I did. Born and raised here, born in Marian General Hospital, graduated from Marian High 13:49 School just like my parents. And very recently, my mother who is a retired teacher from Marian Community School, she passed away approximately two months 13:58 ago. And when I think about Marian, it was always a place of destination for me. It was never a place of desperation. 14:08 But when I talk to our youth, what they talk about is, "Oh, well, Dr. Hunt, there isn't anything for us to do." 14:15 So something like this excise tax, one of the things that intrigued me about it was the development of the youth sports program and the facilities for our 14:23 students for the children of Marian, the next citizens of Marian, Indiana. We want to think about and talk about and remember the fun times that we had. I 14:32 learned ballet and how to tap dance at the YW.CA. I played softball, volleyball, basketball at the POW club. 14:39 And so when we think about our youth, what do they have to do? And so I think that this tax, even though no one wants 14:47 to be taxed, but because this tax will help support the development of youth youth programs for our youth, I'm all 14:54 for it. I'm for anything that benefits the city. I'm for anything that benefits the children of Mary and Indiana. So I am for it. But I'm for it because I am 15:04 for the development of the youth sports programs for um our students and for our children of Marian, Indiana. Thank you. 15:12 Thank you so much, Dr. Hunt microphone is still open. 15:21 Good evening. Welcome. Name, address, and three minutes. 15:24 Karen Cage, Ironwood Drive, Marian. I'm not opposed to the tax per se, but I do have a few concerns about the writing of 15:32 the ordinance. Um, I feel it's really very broad. I I realize that we need the money. I understand that. I'm all for 15:40 kids having things to do, but I think that is it's got too many people putting their fingers in the pie. And by that I mean it's it doesn't have if this is the 15:49 actual wording of the ordinance is printed here of the summary. There's no identifying as I exactly how much is going to go to the parks, how's it going 15:57 to be divided, how's it who's going to really plan on the distribution. Who makes a decision that the parks get it 16:04 or or this bond gets it or or this gets it? Um, I keep going back in my memory of the old Y incident and we seem to had 16:12 a lot of people being able to write checks off of that pro project and I hate to see it repeated here with no oversight protection in here. And I'm also con concerned that this will go up. 16:24 Is this locked in at one or will it go up as uh inflation or need arises? And plus, is this going to be fluid? Can 16:33 this be suspended? if it brings in somebody and you can say well we'll suspend collecting that or is this going to be leveled playing field across the 16:42 board irregardless of the situation like alcohol alcohol and liquor stores and and things like that because if you 16:49 really look at it as says available consumption well that's a pretty broad available consumption so I think it 16:57 needs to have some tweaking I think it needs to have some specifications I think it needs to spell out clearly if there's exemptions 17:04 And also how much can it rise going forward? Is it locked in or is this just locked in? Because when I read the bill 17:11 that Mr. Brun signed, it said it this was available till I think if I'm not mistaken 2045 and then it has to be reapplied for or 17:20 re-upted in that window of time. How much can it go up or are we locked in permanently at one? These are questions 17:28 I think needs to be addressed. And if there's people exempt or there's items exempt, it needs to be spelled out specifically. And I would really like to 17:36 see it if it's going to pass, put down that the parks department has to use it for sports or has to use it for rec uh swing sets or itemize it completely out 17:45 and then as those needs get filled, rechange it. And I would like to see at least a quarterly report given out to the public on how much was collected, 17:54 where did it go, who's oversighting it, who's distributing it, and what did it get spent on an actual followup on a 18:03 regular basis to the public if this passes. Those are my some of my concerns. But as far as the tax itself, I personally eat out a lot. I used to 18:10 cook. I like to eat out now. But and I and we go a lot of places and they have a lot of tourists. If we're going to become a sports or tourist attraction, 18:18 we're going to use our parks with it. We have to emphasize the money there and we have to be able to maintain it long term. And that means in five years, we 18:26 don't want the splash pad being a rusted out mess. You got to plan ahead that you're going to have to maintain it. 18:31 Thank you so much. Three months. Three minutes are up. Appreciate that. All of those questions will be addressed tonight. So, thank you. 18:43 Welcome. 18:44 Hi. Welcome, Bill Creech. Uh I live with her at 1409 Ironwood Drive in Marian. Um 18:52 I just had a couple things. Number one, I do believe that just from overall, we weren't at the uh town whatever the 19:01 question and answer session. But I do think the bill overall or what you're trying to oppose is is from my 19:08 standpoint is a little broad in in scope and that maybe be just because I'm not 19:16 in informed on it. But my question I guess would be is there going to be category caps? I see that you say that 19:25 it's going to be used for parks, reg uh recreation, economic development, bonds, 19:33 leases, and I don't know what obligations for other purposes is. That 19:39 could be anything. So my question is, is 20% going to be dedicated to parks and re um recreation? 19:50 How much is going to go to bonds? how much is going to go for legal fees and consulting fees and and those types of 19:58 things. That is what uh I'm, you know, concerned about. Again, I'm not opposed 20:05 to this. I think it's a great a great thing, but I do think that it needs to be narrowed down and some definition put 20:14 behind it. And then also, who's going to enforce it? What's the enforcement process? 20:22 of food trucks, people paying cash. There's a lot of lot of that going on. Is it 20:31 just going to be um trust trust system? Uh how do you 20:38 enforce it? How do you how what's the mechanism for enforcement? Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Creech. Appreciate that. 20:47 And again, we'll address those tonight. Thank you. 20:56 Welcome. If you want to state your name, address, and you have three minutes. 21:00 Yeah, my name is Kyle Hardwick, 317 Truck Court, Marian, Indiana. Sorry, I'm a little nervous. Um, coming from 21:09 somebody that's been in the food and beverage business his whole life. I mean, Ice House when I was a very young man, I ran the Elks for years. um youth 21:19 programs. I've raised $70,000 for Marian High School through the Elks. Okay. This 21:25 tax is going to hurt small businesses because if you've never been in the food and beverage business, what you don't understand is is like when you go to a 21:33 bar and you order a beer, the tax is already included. We pay that on the back end. You don't go and get a beer 21:39 for 325 plus tax. It's 325 flat. um that most most places do that to you know 21:47 just to speed up you know stuff like that but it also hurts the servers um you know that 1% 21:55 people that tip to an even number you know it it it just adds up all the way across the board and I'm not for it. So 22:04 um I just think there's other ways to raise money other than this. So thank you so much Kyle. Appreciate it. 22:20 Good evening. If you give your name, address, and three minutes. I'm Ryan Howell. I live at 2909 South Branson Street in Marian, Indiana. 22:29 And uh I'm not for this uh tax. 22:34 Uh I I think uh Marian has to tighten their belt due to Senate Bill One to where it's kind of forcing them 22:43 municipalities to take more responsibility for their own spending. Uh passing it down to the 22:51 municipalities and the cities having to cover their expenses. 22:56 U I think there's many ways Mary can tighten their belts. I mean, uh, we have a bus service. It's free bus service that you don't have to pay for. 23:09 That's that could be run into the a million dollars easily. 23:14 Um, government workers, I mean, we we're hiring a bunch of government workers and there there's another way we can tighten our belts. 23:24 Other cities, I mean, this is complicated. Other cities, are they raising taxes, too? Because maybe they are. Maybe they aren't. Maybe this is more complicated than everybody realizes 23:33 because if gas city raises their tax or doesn't raise their tax, we have to compete with gas city. A city, a small 23:40 business will go to gas city and open up a business rather than marrying because it's more expensive here. And our population is declining. It's not expanding, it's declining. 23:52 And uh it's just uh my opinion is government spending government's not going to solve the problem. 24:03 It is the problem. 24:05 And uh I just think that you take away government, private sector moves in it and it's 10 times more cheaper and it's 10 100 times more uh successful. 24:18 Uh, but like I said, um, the parks and everything are look great. 24:24 Uh, you go into Matter Park and the riverfront, I mean, like I said, a lot of things are complicated and I thank 24:32 Ron Murel Jr. for doing that. It a lot of courage, a lot of complications, but riverfront, it's a great I think it's a great I'm 24:40 optimistic about that. But with that being said, I'm against the food and beverage tax. 24:46 was was let's what's make it cheaper for people to do to do business in Marion instead of more expensive. Thank you. 24:54 Thank you, Mr. How. 25:03 Good evening. If you can say your name, address, and you have three minutes. 25:06 Keith Bennett, 2560 East Mark Sarah Drive. 25:10 Um here in Marion, thank you so much. Um to the councilman, uh president, vice president, and to the mayor and to my 25:18 constituents, uh local business owner, uh my wife and I own Losa Mores restaurant. I charge tax on my beer. And 25:26 um I really think that over the six years that I have been here, the growth that we have seen in the downtown Marian 25:35 uh has been phenomenal. And I just want to thank all of you guys for having the courage to um pass the river district, 25:42 start doing some things. We have heard um a lot of people through a lot of years say they're going to invest in Marion and you guys have actually done 25:50 it. Um I have seen an increase in uh traffic in my restaurant. Um because of it, I have been able to acquire a liquor 25:58 license. I have been able to acquire an entertainment license. I have live music now. Um, we have people coming from 26:05 other cities that are coming to our restaurant to eat. This is not a tax just on local people. Although I'm 26:13 willing to invest into a community and into a mayor and a city council that is going to make my city better. If we're 26:21 going to see the uh the things increase around the river district like we're seeing, more people are going to come here and the people that come into our 26:30 city from outside of town. we're going to be able to uh gather that that tax and uh continue to invest in our 26:38 downtown which is going to continue to make people want to come here more and more from outside and make Marian a destination place. Um if I didn't 26:47 believe that you guys were actually going to invest, I would be against it. 26:51 But I have seen the proof of what you guys have done in the last six years that I've been in this downtown as a business owner. And I appreciate the 26:59 enhancements that's happened. It's it's um to pass a river district is a great thing and it's opened up a lot of doors. 27:07 Um a river district isn't a hope and a dream. Six years ago, I came and opened up a business on a hope and a dream. A river district is something that has 27:15 been proven. Uh there's other cities out there. We have fallen behind them in my estimation. Uh this is something that 27:22 can be proven. Uh these taxes have shown that they work. Um, this is a system that works and uh we can we can um show 27:32 that that it works. I'm for it as a business owner. Um, I want to invest in my community and I want to continue to 27:39 see places around me, more businesses come in, more uh venues come in, youth sports, yes, all of that stuff because 27:46 it brings people from outside of the city and then we can actually continue to build up. that's going to enhance my 27:54 business and I just appreciate all of your guys' efforts in doing that and uh yeah, that's all I got to say. Thank you so much. 28:00 Thank you, Keith. Appreciate that. Microphone still open. 28:10 Welcome. State your name, address, and you have three minutes. 28:13 My name is Jeremy Inm. I live at 1070 Sherman Street in Marian and I'm also the president of the Brinker Heights Neighborhood Association. 28:21 And I want to apologize in advance. This is my first time addressing the council, so I'm sure I'm going to trip up and trip over my words and make a fool of 28:29 myself. So bear with me. Um, I'm here today for the families and the seniors in my neighborhood, but also as someone 28:38 who knows firsthand what these families live through every day. I know what it's like to to go to Walmart and buy milk 28:46 and not look at the date because I know that that milk is not going to last to any sell by date. I know the full weight 28:55 of what it is like to raise three young children virtually alone. I know what 29:02 it's like to make hard decisions feel easy. Because when you love your children, sacrifice isn't a burden. 29:12 It's automatic. 29:15 I taught them to be grateful for what they had. I taught them that it's okay to be upset, but it is not okay to throw a fit. 29:25 But underneath all of that, what I was really teaching them was how to live within their means. 29:32 I never wanted them to know how close we were to the edge. 29:39 I'm not in that same situation anymore, but I never forget what it was like. 29:46 When I stand here today, I ask myself, how do the families of Brinker Heights feel right now? And the answer is stretched. 29:58 How do you make $1,100 last 35 days for three adults, three 30:05 children when you're driving 500 miles in a week in a car that's about to break down? And you're just hoping and praying 30:12 that you're going to make it to the school on time because Oria is at the limit for her absences. 30:20 How do you do that? 30:23 I know because I did it for months and months and I've got the credit card debt to prove it. I hate debt. 30:34 But a difficult decision had to be made. 30:37 I had to ask myself, are my daughters worth paying 29% interest on milk? And 30:44 the answer every day, all day, every time, always is yes. 30:52 And I'm sure there are people who would call me a hypocrite for that. But that tells me far more about them than it does about me. That tells me they've 31:00 never held a child in their arms. That tells me they've never had to choose between debt and hunger. So the question that I would like to ask the council 31:07 while I'm on this paternal rant is what happened to the $321.40 I just gave you in May. Thank you. 31:17 Thank you. 31:42 Good evening. If you can state your name, address, and you have three minutes. 31:46 Chuck Binkard with the Grant County Economic Growth Council. I live at 24/19 North Wabash. 31:53 Um, just wanted to address the the council in regards to the perspective of economic development. I know when the 32:00 mayor made his opening remarks and uh when the uh when the ordinance title was 32:07 read, a big part of this um this initiative is to support economic development. That is economic 32:14 development is a very competitive uh venture. Every community in the state of Indiana, every community across the 32:23 nation, we're all trying to vive for the same potential development. We're all trying to vive for the same potential jobs. We're all trying to uh do whatever 32:32 we can to support our existing businesses and companies that have been here for uh decades or or maybe they've just moved into the community and and 32:41 they're employing people. So, uh from an economic development perspective, it's always good to know that there are opportunities for money to be earmarked specifically for economic development. 32:52 Uh and when uh you talk about um some of the plans uh that the mayor's laid out and uh some of the great things that 33:00 that would happen if this revenue source were made available. Uh you might say, well, you know, how is a park, how is a 33:07 a soccer field, how are those things tied to economic development? And I can tell you that one of the most significant elements of economic 33:15 development is quality of place, uh quality of life issues. uh folks want to live where they have those kinds of 33:23 opportunities. Folks want to um and then businesses want to come where folks want to live, right? So um it's really 33:31 important whenever there's an opportunity uh to take advantage of this kind of a of a scenario and this this kind of an opportunity where we can 33:39 bring in the kind of revenue that we're talking about bringing in and it can be allocated for the purpose of economic development. Uh someone else mentioned 33:48 this earlier, but the other issue is we very rarely get opportunities to have folks from outside of the community 33:55 participate in that. Uh normally it's uh taxpayers within the community that support those kinds of elements. And so 34:03 when we have thousands of folks coming through our community every day, whether they're coming in to work or whether they're driving through for for 34:10 whatever, they're coming in uh to a basketball game, they're doing whatever, they're going to come into uh the city of Marian and if they spend money at 34:18 McDonald's, as the mayor mentioned, or you know, at any of the restaurant, the local restaurants or or the bars here, they're going to contribute a few cents. 34:27 Uh that adds up uh to a lot of money. 34:30 And again, that support from folks from outside of the community is is just so vital and we just don't get those kind of opportunities very often. So, I'd 34:38 encourage you to just consider the opportunity from an economic development perspective that this is going to bring uh and that these dollars will really 34:46 make a true difference. Thank you. Appreciate it, Chuck. 34:54 Microphone is still open. 35:03 Good evening. If you state your name, address, and you have three minutes. 35:08 Good evening, council members. Michael Duke, 5180 East 100 North, Marian, Indiana. 35:15 Um, appreciate the opportunity to speak tonight to you. as one citizen speaking. 35:21 Um, I would ask and expect that the council protect the interests of Marian's citizenry by appropriately 35:30 progressing this proposed ordinance through the all three readings of the ordinance review process. thus 35:39 allowing for the full and deliberate consideration of all aspects of this impactful matter of a proposed 35:46 additional tax on the limited discretionary funds of its citizens. 35:54 I would offer a couple of things for consideration and I believe in here are some facts for your uh your uh your 36:02 thought. Um, I would uh offer that uh this council has a bigger problem coming 36:11 at it. It's a big locomotive being caused by Senate Bill One, as has been referred to by several comments. 36:22 This locomotive is going to impact this city in a reduction of revenue and its income stream over the next several 36:30 years. all of which are unknowns really at this point in time. So, it's hard to say anything with discreetness. 36:39 But nevertheless, you're going to be looking at a reduction income that you're going to have to make hard decisions, have hard discussions over 36:48 about how you solve them to provide continue to provide the basic city uh city services of public safety, 36:57 of infrastructure, sanitation and the like. Those are those are the high priorities of the city of mission 37:05 of the city. But there are also other priorities as economic development, parks and recreation and so forth has as 37:12 have been talked about. But you're going to have to pri I would suggest you're going to have to prioritize and some of those decisions may be painful. 37:23 I'll make one prediction that in the coming weeks, years, you're going to have more 37:30 discussions about more tax increases. in particular, I would predict that you're going to be talking about local income 37:38 tax increases. 37:42 Just for consideration, and hear me out here if your buzzer rings, I'll wrap this up. As a matter of fact, 37:51 our the citizens have been paying income local income tax at the rate of 0255 in 1924 tax returns. 38:00 that is probably going to increase in this next year. One of those increases being driven by an issue at the county 38:08 council that's con um your time is up and would you like to say whether you're for or against it or undecided? 38:17 I think I would say in conclusion, Mr. 38:19 McKinley, focus on raising the tax base, not on raising taxes any more than you have to. All right. 38:26 Let's have some economic development success. Appreciate it. Thank you. 38:39 Good evening and welcome. State your name, address, and you have three minutes. 38:43 My name is Luis TTO and I business owner in in Marion for almost 25 years. And I 38:51 uh just heard a while ago they wanted to raise the 1% for food and beverage. And I I agree with that 39:00 because uh that the 1% I think help our town and I think it's a good idea. I'd be happy to pay the 1% whatever I spend 39:09 money in that town and I think uh I really happy to be part of that and uh collect that 1% in a restaurant also. 39:19 So, and uh thank you very much. Thank you so much. Appreciate that. 39:32 I know there's a couple more that want to talk, so the microphone's open. 39:43 Good evening. You just state your name, address, and you have three minutes. 39:47 Good evening, members of the council, mayor, and fellow residents. My name is Deborah Kaine, 4622 South Kerry Street. 39:54 Marian, I appreciate the opportunity to speak in support of the proposed 1% food and beverage tax. As a full-time 40:02 employee on a fixed salary, I understand the importance of budgeting, making every dollar count. Some may express concerns about the impact of this tax on 40:11 individuals with fixed incomes. It's important to note that every individual is on a fixed income regardless of 40:18 employment status operating within fixed financial parameters. Consider this. 40:24 When I visit Wendy's for their one of their salads, which I enjoy for the health benefits and convenience, a $10 meal will now cost $1010. 40:34 That additional 10 cents is a modest contribution toward enhancing our community's quality of life. This tax is 40:44 is targeted to at prepared foods and beverages, meaning it won't affect my grocery bill unless I opt for the ready 40:52 to eat hot rotisserie chicken. Even then, it's a minimal increase. A $5 prepared item is now $55. 41:03 a small increment, but when pulled together can fund significant community projects. 41:12 The revenue generated from this tax can be allocated to vital community enhancements like developing maintaining 41:20 parks and recreation facilities, splash pad for young children to enjoy playing in, skate park where teenagers can safely 41:28 engage in their sport, potentially hosting competition that attracts visitors from across the country. And 41:34 believe me, it does. They travel all across the states. By investing in these amenities, we provide our youth with 41:43 constructive outlets, reducing the likelihood of them engaging in undesirable activities due to boredom, lack of opportunity. 41:53 Indiana Wesley and Taylor University bring hundreds of thousands of visitors to our areas annually, especially during 42:00 the summer. These visitors dine at our restaurants, purchase prepared food, contributing to the tax revenue. 42:08 It's also worth noting that many surrounding counties have already implemented the food and tax beverage. 42:15 Did you know that Delaware, the city of Muny, has had a 1% food and tax beverage since 1986. 42:26 When you visit a restaurant in Muny, did you realize you were paying for that tax? In conclusion, this modest tax is a strategic investment in Marian's future. 42:37 It enables us to enhance our community, provide our youth with an engaging activity, and improve the overall quality of life for all residents. I 42:46 urge the council to consider the long-term benefits and improve the implementmentation of the 1% food and beverage tax. 42:53 Appreciate it. Time's up. 43:01 Good evening. State your name, address, and you have three minutes. Randy Hayyatt, 807 East 29th Street. 43:08 Just want to say as an employee of the city of Marion for over 20 years, I've lived through what the mayor's already said with the budget cut. Those of us that have know the first thing that was 43:17 cut was parks. We used to have 23. We're now down to 13. And some of those have been revamped, but they still need more. 43:27 We We've got to the point where we couldn't even pay our bills because of that budget cut. Those of us that have been around know exactly what I'm talking about. Vendors dropped us. 43:37 Projects got put on hold, not finished, not completed. Couldn't start any new ones. 43:43 Driving equipment that was outdated and dangerous because we didn't have any money in the budget to to buy new things. Services slacked off. 43:53 I don't want to live through that again. 43:56 I have five children. And I understand what some of these were saying about going to McDonald's and all that, but to be honest with you, if your 20 cents 44:03 stops me from going to McDonald's, I won't go. 44:08 It's that simple. You You want to keep your youth here and then give them things to do? The park budget is already crumbled. 44:16 The mayor has already promised money to go into that budget for those said repairs and further maintenance. 44:23 I'm for this bill. Thank you. Thank you, Randy. 44:30 Good evening. Name, address, and three minutes. 44:33 Sure. Rose Kadina, U 10932 East 700 North, Van Beern, Indiana 46991. 44:40 I currently work for the parks department. I have worked um for the parks department for 18 years. Um I'm in 44:47 charge of the budget. Um so I know how very little our budget does for the parks. We keep making improvements and 44:57 adding things to the parks, but our budget never changes to take care of all these amenities that we are adding. 45:05 Hence the fitness court, um the basketball courts that we updated in Charles Mo Park, the restrooms that we're trying to update. Our budgets 45:14 aren't built with those um major maintenance issues or repairs or facilities that just need need to be 45:22 redone due to the fact, you know, that they've been there for years and deteriorating, vandalism. Um I don't 45:30 know if anybody really realizes the cost that it takes to replace playground equipment in 13 parks. I can tell you at 45:38 Friendship Corner just to replace one of the slides that someone set on fire is $8,000. 45:46 And in 18 years, I can't tell you how many times we've replaced those slides. That stuff isn't built into our budgets. 45:54 Um I sometimes take my bud my budget for the parks kind of personally and protect that money because we need to make it 46:02 last and stretch. Um, but in order for us to keep going upward, that money has to come from somewhere. So, I'm in 46:11 support of the um this um food and beverage tax. Thank you. Thank you, Rose. 46:25 Microphone is still open. 46:29 Good evening. Please state your name, address, and you have three minutes. 46:33 Charles Moon 703 East Suesy Street. The questions have been asked or they 46:40 discuss if a person comes into marin the question is asked what do you have to offer my children well I have a question 46:48 what parents what do you have to offer your children it isn't the city government responsibility to raise your 46:56 children it's your responsibility the mayor mentioned last night about four murders and involving teenagers. 47:08 Parks are not going to solve that problem. 47:12 It's the home that will solve that problem. We have a lot of fights going on in city of Marian. The government is 47:20 not going to solve that problem. The home is going to solve that problem. 47:25 And we talk about having parks close to people. 47:31 from 33rd Street to 50th Street, there's no parks. I say, "So what?" People get to McDonald's, they get to the places 47:39 they want to get to in Marian. The government don't give them McDonald's two doors down from them, 47:48 they drive, they walk, they get the bus, they get some of the ways. We don't have to have parks. Actually, we could save 47:56 some money limiting some some of the parks. go down on Wyen Street at the one that they just put down there. I haven't 48:04 seen maybe two or three people all the time that's been there that was using that. So, if we want to save some money, 48:13 let's decide how many parks and what are being used and the ones that aren't 48:19 being used, let's eliminate them. And there's a lot better ways to get things done rather than to raise the the 48:28 prices. As far as the u airport is concerned, septic tanks, uh 48:37 we had good old outhouses and we paid the honey dipper to take care of those things. 48:44 Thank you. Microphone still open. 49:06 Good evening. If you say your name, address, and you have three minutes. 49:10 Hello, council. My name is Roman. I live at 1220 West Marin Avenue. 20 years old. 49:16 I'm a young guy who's trying to save money, and I'm sure everybody in this room knows that that can be a hard thing to do. Uh even with that being said, I'm 49:23 absolutely in favor for this bill. I think that the where the money will go, you know, skate parks, parks, I think 49:31 that will absolutely outweigh, you know, the 1% that people have to pay on fast food and, you know, other things like 49:39 that. Um my best friend just had his first kid. He's got another one on the way. And I would love to see Marion 49:48 become a place where, you know, you can, you know, have a good life. You know, raise a kid, you know, be able to go to a skate park and have fun with your 49:56 buddies after school or be able to play on a nice soccer field or, you know, just do those kinds of things that, you know, maybe some kids aren't able to 50:03 today. And uh, so yeah, I'm absolutely in favor of this bill. Thank you. Thank you, Roman. 50:13 Anybody else? 50:22 I'm not seeing anyone else make their way to the microphone. It's your last chance. 50:32 All right, I'm going to close the public hearing. Thank you everyone for who spoke and um I will defer this back to the 50:39 mayor initially to address anything he may want and then again we'll open up to the council ask more questions. 50:44 Yeah. Um I'll have our our lawyer and and financial people come up to answer some of the questions that were proposed. Uh one of them is the state 50:52 has limited at at 20 at 1% so it can't go any higher than that ever. Um I think there it was. Oh, so this is this 51:00 getting it passed tonight is just for the allowance of the tax to be collected. After this, we have to go through an additional process. I have to 51:08 bring to the council um additional appropriations on how the money can be spent. So as far as the transparency and things being itemized out, we still have 51:15 to go through that process after this portion of it is complete. So the council will have a it'll be the same thing again where it'll be our proposal. 51:22 It'll be a first reading, second reading, and all the stuff that comes along with that. And I think that was Thank you. 51:28 Yeah. President McKinley, members of the council, good evening. Chris Chrysler, Barnes & Thornberg. Uh just generally answering some questions that were uh 51:36 brought up during the uh public comments. As the mayor mentioned, it is a 1% max that's set by state law. Uh the 51:44 state statute authorizing food and beverage taxes cannot exceed 1%. So that is always your limit. Um 2047 is the 51:52 year that this food and beverage tax will be abolished. Uh in general, uh most communities when the state issues 51:59 these food and beverage tax regimes set them for 25 years. For whatever reason, we're lumped in at 2047 because that's 52:07 when most communities are going to sunset uh at the state. So we actually are going to collect less revenue than the general 25 years that some other 52:15 communities are getting to collect. And then after 2047, the state's going to decide what it's going to do with food and beverage taxes in general. 52:23 There are no exceptions. Um, I know that question was asked. Once applied, it is a state tax. So, if it's an eligible transaction, no matter who's paying the 52:32 transaction, no matter what the eligible transaction is, the tax is going to be applied to it. Um, with respect to 52:39 enforcement, the Department of Revenue uh is the authorizing agency that, uh, is going to be enforcing the tax. Uh my 52:47 team and my office has been working closely, the city uh has as well with the department of revenue. Uh they are the implementers of the tax. They are 52:54 the ones that enforce it. Uh doing um a state uh revenue tax like this is a 53:02 voluntary system in part. Voluntary in the sense that it is voluntary until the department of revenue catches you and tells you that you should be paying the 53:09 tax. So there is going to be a ramp up system to this and that's why the department of revenue is involved. 53:14 That's why Mayor Morurell's been talking about it so much out in the community because you do hope to catch voluntary compliance as much as you can up at the 53:22 beginning. Uh but we will have a ramp up period. And so the Department of Revenue is there to assist uh businesses in in 53:29 your community to make sure that they understand how to implement it. They understand how to collect it and we'll work with them directly on that. And 53:37 then with respect to the ordinance, um I know there are some questions asked about the nature of uh the revenue. So 53:45 the ordinance, as you may know, mimics the state statute. And the state statute allows the city of Marian if you were to implement the food and beverage tax to 53:53 apply those revenues to economic development purposes, park purposes, or debt, general obligation bonds that 54:01 upport those purposes. So taking out bonds for park projects, taking out bonds for economic development projects. 54:06 Uh as the mayor mentioned, um most commonly after these food and beverage taxes are adopted, these will then these revenues will then go to your budget 54:15 process. So you'll be able to appropriate these revenues through your annual budget process or you'll be able to adopt uh an an additional 54:23 appropriation specific for some purpose just like you do through your normal budgeting process as well. Um, and I think those are all the questions. Uh, 54:32 but I'm I'm happy to answer any other general questions that you may have about the ordinance or any of the comments. 54:40 Thank you, Chris. Any council members with questions for Chris? 54:47 Yeah, Councilman Marshall. 54:49 Thank you. Um, I appreciate all the things that you just uh said because those are those are questions I have and I'm guess I'm more in the weeds of how 54:57 it gets collected and and sent back to the city. So, as it gets collected uh retailers will uh pay it monthly, I 55:05 assume and then how often will we get our money from the state? 55:10 Yep. You should. And that's a great question. And so, um, most, uh, businesses that use a point of sales system will work with the department of 55:18 revenue to make the adjustment on their point of sale systems to increase that pass through tax. The department of revenue will then collect that on a 55:26 monthly basis, and you'll start receiving those checks on a monthly basis, as well as a direct remittance from the state. If we were to implement 55:34 this uh adopt this ordinance uh next week and and finalize it this month in July, the first uh implementation of the 55:43 tax would start on September 1st. So, you will more than likely start collecting your revenue sometime in late 55:50 October as the state catches up from its first collection efforts. 55:57 Other council members, Council Mle, I Hi, Chris. I just want to make sure I understand your answer for the question I asked yesterday. 56:05 When we do this ordinance, we do not have to start it at 1%. If we don't want to. That's correct. 56:12 We can start it at 0.25 and then ramp it up. That's correct. 56:16 Once we get our foot in the door before the deadline, we're okay. I'm not lobbying. I'm just saying we can if we want to. 56:22 That That's a correct statement, Councilman Klein. The only obligation is that you have to pass something before December 31st of this year in order to 56:30 preserve the food and beverage tax opportunity, but nothing prevents you later down the road from implementing an increase to that tax up to the maximum limit of 1%. 56:39 Okay. I just want to make sure I understood it. Thank you. Yes, sir. Thank you, Councilwoman Divine. 56:47 And then to clarify, um, we had talked that I believe that this money can be used part of the budget process. It 56:55 doesn't have to be capital improvement projects. So, if for example with this bill, we see property taxes go down and 57:02 we have a budget shortfall and we want to earmark that for the parks budget to keep it running, we can do that as well. 57:10 It doesn't have to just go towards major projects. 57:12 As long as it's geared towards statutory purposes, it's fungeable within those purposes. Okay. 57:24 other council members. All right. Thanks, Chris. Appreciate it. 57:33 Mayor, anything else? 57:36 No, I think we're okay. Unless you have any follow-up questions for me, then I think that's all I have. 57:44 I don't have any other questions. Any other council members questions for the mayor? 57:52 I'll just address a few things um things that kind of stood out tonight um that I just want to maybe state my opinion on. 58:03 Um you know, there was a comment made tonight um about the population declining in Marion. 58:10 Um, I moved here about 10 years ago, chose to move here, and 58:18 I'm just going to be very honest. When I moved here and I opened a business, I repeatedly heard from residents of the city, why'd you move to Marion? 58:29 Why this place? It's depressed mentality. That's why we've lost population. 58:37 depressed mentality. What do we have to offer here? It's marry and we're not worth it. 58:44 I've read some of the comments. Mayor's been very very transparent on Facebook. 58:49 Um overly transparent. I applaud the mayor for that. And some of the comments uh many of the comments are of depressed mentality. 59:01 And it's really really sad. It's people have become a victim of group think in this city. We're not 59:08 worth it here. We don't need anything nice. That's why you go move to Caramel. 59:12 I literally read that on a comment. This isn't Carmel. Okay, you're right. If we never do anything, we're going to keep 59:20 going backwards. If we can't provide things nice, no one's ever going to move here. 59:26 I didn't move here for the amenities. I moved here for love. That'll get you here, right? But if I was looking to move here for the amenities or for a 59:34 job, I probably would have never looked at Marion. Just being honest. But I've come to love this city. I've come to love to serve this city. And it's part 59:43 of the reason I ran for council because I'm sick and tired. I'm sick and tired of the depressed mentality 59:51 that has been inflicted on this community through poor leadership in the past. 59:57 There's a quote from Theodore Roosevelt. 1:00:01 It says in any moment of decision, the best thing you can do is the right thing. The next best thing is the wrong thing. The worst thing you can do is nothing. And nothing has been done in 1:00:09 this community for too long. It's been stagnant. It's been sitting. It's why it's lost population. 1:00:17 Meanwhile, these communities, I'm just going to say, that have a food and beverage tax, go look them up. See what they're doing. See what they're doing with their communities. See what they're 1:00:26 doing with this money. They are growing because they're providing things for their community. They're bringing people into the city to spend more money at the 1:00:34 restaurants. They're providing amenities that bring out of town tourists. 1:00:41 Don't know if you know this or not, but we actually have a hotel tax. And you know how much Marion gets out of that? 1:00:47 Zero. It goes all to the visitors bureau, which is great, but we get nothing. 1:00:53 And I heard another thing tonight about thousands of people come to these IW and Taylor events. City gets nothing. That sales tax goes down to the state. The hotel tax goes to visitors bureau. 1:01:04 Nothing comes to the city other than supporting our local businesses that continue to pay their taxes, pay their 1:01:12 property taxes, which by the way, I had a comment about I think property taxes. 1:01:17 Marian gets a very small percentage of that. Property taxes, by the way, are going to go down thanks to Senate Bill One. I'm all about low taxes, but we've 1:01:25 got to figure out something to do in the city. I heard another comment about, you know, the reduction of property taxes, but this will go towards our youth. 1:01:34 It'll help us keep our parks alive. I'm just, this is not an easy decision. The tax word, especially coming from a 1:01:42 conservative, is very hard to say. It is extremely hard. 1:01:49 But this isn't a tax to then go spend money to research how monkeys react to the sun when they're driving down the road. Right? We know all these pork 1:01:58 things going on with the federal government that, thank God, are being trimmed. This is not pork spending. This is an investment in our community. This 1:02:06 is an investment in our kids. This is an investment in our future. And this is an investment to grow this city finally. 1:02:13 And we've got a mayor that's bold enough to make bold decisions that has a vision. 1:02:18 If this was I'm not going to name name certain other mayors, I'd have been adamantly against it because I had seen no vision for this. But this mayor has 1:02:28 pointed out a very bold vision. And this is just the start of it. And I support it. I support his vision. And I know 1:02:36 this money is going to be used wisely and it can be used to invest in our community and invest in our youth and invest in this entire community. 1:02:44 That's all I have. Any other council members? Councilman Calg. 1:02:49 Um I 100% agree with President McKinley on everything he's saying. And like he said, we don't want to raise taxes. 1:02:58 Nobody wants to do that. But the state has thrown this in our lap. And you know, to me that they're kind of playing 1:03:06 the shell game. Oh, look, we're going to lower everybody's property tax and everything's great. Is what they're not telling you is that we're going to lose 1:03:14 over $3 million from the state as well. We our budget, we run so tight on a budget for what we have now. um firefighter. 1:03:26 When I became a firefighter 1995, I think we had 74 75 firefighters. They're running more calls now. They're doing 1:03:34 more and we have 60 guys. So, you know, in the police department, these guys are doing the exact same thing. They're 1:03:41 running three times as many things, putting their lives on the line with a lot less people. So, it's easy for people to say, "Well, we just need to 1:03:49 cut people." There's no room to cut, guys. 1:03:53 At some point in time, it it becomes a safety issue, not just for police and fire, but for our citizens. You know, 1:04:00 the most important thing that we want is to be protected. That's the and everybody says, "Well, that's the biggest part of the budget." You show me 1:04:08 a city where the public safety is not your biggest part of your budget. That's just the way it is. We've got to have things for our youth. I applaud what you 1:04:17 guys are saying because the mayor is willing to invest in our children. You know, when I was a young 1:04:25 people, we stayed a marriage because there was things and everything. We all know what happened with our factories. 1:04:31 Okay? Hey, that's part of life. We have to evolve. We got to keep rolling. And if we don't do something to keep our kids here, they're just going to keep going because there's nothing here. 1:04:40 We're trying to do things the right way. I applaud the mayor for what he's doing. 1:04:45 um this isn't easy, but um when you're handed that by the state and they say, "Well, just figure it out." You know, 1:04:54 it's it's not even a matter of figuring it out. You don't have a lot of options. 1:04:59 This right here, um this will help us be able to do the things that we need to do in Marian to keep Marion going 1:05:07 forward. You know, we could just do nothing, not raise no taxes, not do nothing, lay more people off, do whatever. and Marian's going to be in 1:05:15 the same position that we've been in the last 25, 30 years. We have to keep going. We have to keep the pedal to the 1:05:22 metal and not stop. Um, yeah, I'm an elected official. You know what? This ain't about getting 1:05:30 reelected. This ain't about nothing. I'm trying to do what's right for our community. And if it costs me that, then so be it because I'm always going to do 1:05:37 what's right. And this stinks, plain and simple. And you know, is this the last tax thing that's going to be talked about? Probably not. 1:05:47 Because we have some very hard decisions to go. And I don't ever want you guys to think that, oh, this is a passing the 1:05:54 buck and they're just fed. Th this isn't easy for any of us. There's a lot of discussions that's going on. Um, I'm in 1:06:01 favor of it because I don't see any other way out at this point in time. 1:06:10 Can I go? He He hasn't gone yet. Can he go next? Yeah. And then you, Councilman Brunner, I just want to uh 1:06:18 praise our mayor. Uh he knows how I feel about him. I've talked to him about once every two weeks. We have uh 1:06:28 council mayor meetings. And um what we did this past Thursday night, I 1:06:36 thought was really outstanding. and talking about the Fourth of July celebration we had at M Park. Um the 1:06:46 outstanding music he brought in, the outstanding food we had available for people and then the fireworks. So, 1:06:55 Mayor, I thank you for what you've done in your first year and a half, and I know you're going to do bigger and better things, and this is just one of 1:07:02 those things. So, thank you so much for being our mayor. Thank you, Councilman Klein. 1:07:10 Yeah, thank you. Um, last week I took a while and argued against this 1:07:17 and was adamantly against it. And as recently as yesterday, I told folks, 1:07:24 some of them here even, that I don't like this and I'm I can't see it. 1:07:32 But I also I've talked to a lot of people both for it and against it. 1:07:37 And I also thought back when I ran the first time in 2019, I use the line a lot. This town's worth fighting for. 1:07:48 So this is a fight we need to have. 1:07:51 We need to we need to do this. I'm going to vote for it. I think it's useful. I think it's good. I've talked to and 1:07:58 listened to. I've listened more than I've talked. 1:08:02 And um I think this is a fight we need to win. 1:08:09 And uh let's do it. 1:08:14 Thank you, Council Klein. Any other council members? Mr. President? 1:08:21 Yep. Go ahead. I guess I I will echo echo every everyone's uh comments here tonight. Mr. President, yours, Mr. 1:08:29 Calgill, yours also. Um the future's not people my age. I'm not 1:08:39 the future of Marian. I've lived here all my life. I love it here. Uh I've 1:08:45 raised families here. But the future is somebody like Roman sitting out here in the audience and his two buddies. 1:08:53 They're the future of Marion right there that's going to stay in Marion. They're going to work for employers in Marian. 1:09:03 And if we can provide them amenities that they can enjoy life with their families and with their children here in 1:09:12 Marian, I think that is great because they are the future of Marian and we need to take care of our youth. Thank you. 1:09:23 Thank you. Any other council members? 1:09:29 I just want to make sure everyone has an opportunity. 1:09:33 And I will also say before I would ask a motion that this would go this will definitely go to a 1:09:40 third reading. Um if this were to go to a third reading, then the state also mandates that a resolution be passed 1:09:49 prior to the adoption of the an ordinance of this. And so if this were to go to a third reading at the next 1:09:58 council meeting next week, then there also be will be a resolution just prior to that. I know it sounds crazy, but 1:10:05 that's just the way the state wrote the law. Sometimes they write it in, sometimes they don't. Um just a procedural thing. So I just want to give everyone a heads up on that. If you if 1:10:13 this were to pass and go to next week, that's why you're going to see a resolution pop. 1:10:20 But anybody have anything else? If not, then I would accept a motion. Go ahead, council. 1:10:25 Mr. President, I move we pass general ordinance 142025 to third reading. Second. 1:10:31 I have a a motion by Councilman Klein, a second by Councilman Brunner. Any other discussion? 1:10:40 Madame Deputy Clerk, roll call. 1:10:43 Kane, I. 1:10:44 Marshall, I. Forice. I. Runner. I. 1:10:47 Klene, yes. Divine. Yes. Whitten. 1:10:50 Yes. Calgill I McKinley yes general ordinance 14-2025 will go to a third reading the next 1:10:59 council regular meeting next week at Tuesday at 7 p.m. And again there will be a resolution it's procedural that 1:11:06 will come up right before that as well basically for the same thing. So um that's all I have tonight. Thank you 1:11:13 everyone for coming and we will take a motion to adjurnn. 1:11:19 Motion to adjourn by Councilman Calgill, a second by Councilman Klene. Any discussion? Madame Deputy Clerk, roll call. 1:11:26 Kain, yes. 1:11:28 Marshall, I. 1:11:30 Forice, yes. 1:11:31 Brunner, I. 1:11:32 Klene, yes. 1:11:33 Divine, yes. Whitten, yes. 1:11:35 Calgill, I. 1:11:37 McKinley, yes. Meetings adjourned. Thank you for coming, everyone. Thank you. 1:11:46 Have a good night.