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    0:13  Good evening and welcome to the Marian Common Council meeting. It is July 15th, 7 p.m. in the
    0:22  Maran City Council chambers. I welcome everybody here and we're going to call this meeting to order and begin with the prayer by our mayor Ronald Morurell Jr.
    0:34  You will please stand.
    0:36  Lord, we thank you for this day. Thank you for this time. Ask you just to bless this meeting and bless everyone involved that make the best decisions um for the city in Jesus name. Amen.
    0:47  Amen. and the uh pledge of allegiance by Councilman David Calgary.
    0:52  Meet in the pledge. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands.
    1:03  One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
    1:11  Thank you, mayor, and thank you, Councilman Kaine. Madame Deputy Clerk, roll call. here.
    1:18  Marshall here.
    1:20  Ford here.
    1:21  Brunner here.
    1:22  Klein here.
    1:24  Divine here.
    1:25  Whitten here.
    1:26  Calgill here.
    1:27  Mckenley here.
    1:29  All right. So, we're going to move into tonight's community spotlight and it strictly involves district five and that
    1:37  is Council May Andy Whitten. So, um I'm going to hand the reigns over to Councilman Whitten for this one.
    1:45  Thank you, President McKinley. Uh, I appreciate you asking me uh to nominate someone for the community spotlight. I
    1:54  um we have a lot of wonderful businesses and and folks doing great things in our district and I wanted to nominate all of
    2:03  the uh neighborhood associations. So, uh, I nominated, uh, Rhysa Black from
    2:10  Center City and, uh, Eric Marshall and I share part of that neighborhood
    2:16  association and Gus Martin, Tammy Filurn with Harry Kramer Neighborhood Association, and Sharon Carson with the
    2:25  Hope uh, South Marian Neighborhood Association. I also share that neighborhood association with Councilman
    2:34  Kaine in W 6. So, if you folks could come up,
    2:41  um we will we will do a photo and if you'd like to say anything, uh we we'd
    2:48  love to give you a minute or two. We wanted to recognize your uh dedication to the city and all the uh the time that
    2:56  you donate to our neighborhoods and making our city a better place. Thank you.
    3:02  Yeah. All the way up. All the way up here.
    3:05  And can I add something, too? Is that all right if I add something? Come on.
    3:07  You guys, you have to come all the way up. It's protocol.
    3:12  I know. Right here. You get the stage lights. Um, I just want to echo what Councilman Whitten said. A lot of people
    3:21  don't realize um how much commitment goes into being a neighborhood association president or vice president or volunteer. Um, they put tireless
    3:29  amount of time into to making their areas and neighborhoods uh better. And I can say from my experience, and I know
    3:37  all the council members can say this, that they uh many times make our lives easier as well because sometimes they're the eyes and ears on the ground that can
    3:45  relay information to us and you know, they'll notice if there's something wrong in the neighborhood. They're kind of like your unofficial neighborhood
    3:52  watch in a way as well. So, um, thank you Councilman Whitten for having all of them here and thank you all for showing
    3:59  up. So, any of you would like would any of you like to share anything at all?
    4:07  And this is Tammy. Yes. Thank you.
    4:12  Yes. Um I didn't get to do this at the end of last year, but I wanted to thank city council, Mayor Morurell,
    4:20  Randy, and his crew, and everybody that helped make our green space possible. Um we are, it is total awesome space. If
    4:29  you have not been out in our neighborhood, the green space is really nice. Um, so come check it out. I just wanted to say thank you to all these
    4:38  wonderful people. And the first year jumped right in in January. We started that process. We went from January to October last year and getting that
    4:46  installed. So, but all the support that city council gave us, it's we thank you.
    4:59  Sharon first. I just want to thank everybody for recognizing this this evening and um just think about the people that are out here trying to do
    5:08  good for the city of Marian because it's a job and most of us are elderly because we can't get the young people to come
    5:15  out. But um anyway, just thank us for recognizing us.
    5:23  On behalf of Center City, we want to thank the mayor, the city council,
    5:30  all the people and the staff and the everybody that assists center city. It
    5:36  has been improving with the street payments, with the alleys, just the demolations, the buildings and
    5:45  think it looks so much better. So much better. And we thank you on behalf of Center City. as I went out to um check
    5:55  um we were partner up with uh the river church and they had a group called serve and they would go out to your
    6:02  neighborhood to clean up and so before they did I went out to look through our neighborhood to see well I know center
    6:09  city's got things that need to be cleaned up but from last year to this year it is beautiful not that it's all
    6:18  you know outstand but it's much It has improved so much with the cleaning up.
    6:24  It looks so much better, so much brighter. And there is hope. Our theme's called there's hope for the future. And there's hope when you see all these
    6:33  things and the brightness, the cleanliness, so forth. And like I said, I went through I drove up and down every
    6:39  street trying to find a river people. I don't know, but they've cleaned up. But
    6:46  I did have assignment for them. But they did do some things. But anyway, I thank the river church. I thank all of you. If I've left out something, somebody please
    6:54  forgive me. But on behalf of the center city, we thank you.
    6:59  Well, thank you so much. And you know, there might be others that are watching.
    7:02  I know there's some in the audience that are also um presidents of their neighborhood association are very very involved in it and we just thank all of
    7:10  you. And um it is it's it's a lot of work. And um as my wife taught me this, I probably it's been around forever, but
    7:19  the saying is, you know, how do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time. And you are part of digging one bite at a time
    7:27  and being that um conduit between you and your neighborhood, the city council members, the mayor um because we don't know what we don't know. So, we just
    7:35  really really appreciate you in District Five and what Councilman Whitten's doing with the rest of you down there as well.
    7:41  So, thank you so much, Councilman Calgill.
    7:45  Uh, somebody else that I think that you guys would probably agree with me that works great with you guys is Dena. She's doing um, you know, for her jumping in
    7:53  for the first year and everything that I partial year. That's right. So, she's doing a phenomenal job as well.
    8:01  Yes.
    8:04  And do you want to tell everyone who Dean is so those that are watching know? Yeah.
    8:08  Uh your official title is the neighborhood neighborhood association coordinator.
    8:15  Thank you.
    8:18  I I would add that if you uh if you have a neighborhood association, go to a meeting. If you live in a neighborhood
    8:25  and don't have one yet, get with the Deanna because uh she's got some that need need
    8:32  volunteers. So, uh we can get some of the old ones that are closed maybe back up and going. That would be wonderful.
    8:40  That's a good point. Thank you for that. Any other council members?
    8:45  All right. Great. And so, Gus, y welcome. This is Gus. He made it up here. Welcome. Yes. Thank you.
    8:51  All right. So now Gus, would you like to say anything? Everyone else made a few comments. Do you want to say anything? Yeah, sure.
    8:57  Okay, go ahead. Just talk where you're at.
    9:00  I'll catch you from over there. You don't go talk where you're at.
    9:04  Thanks. Name Gus Smart from Harry P Neighborhood. I'm the president of Harry P Neighborhood Association.
    9:11  I thank you all for inviting me. U sorry I was late. have been mowing trying not for me and time kind of slipper on me
    9:21  but uh I've been uh doing this for a while
    9:28  uh since war and uh I enjoy it. I love meeting people
    9:36  trying to get my house trying to get them involved in in the community. Uh my
    9:43  main concern is that, you know, trying to figure out how can I how can we uh come up with a solution and get
    9:51  people out to the meeting. Um uh get a more involved in the in the community,
    9:59  try to help, you know, keep our bring our community up and make it more bright and liveable. You know, just because we
   10:07  live out south Mar uh don't mean that we can't dig in a little bit more, do a
   10:16  little bit more little extra, you know, but uh cleaning up, picking up trash or
   10:23  moving. Even though if it's not your lot or your property, it don't mean that you shouldn't be concerned about your next
   10:31  door. You know, I'm not saying you have to go the their property, but you know, around the
   10:38  edge there, that's city property by the sidewalk. So, I like to see my neighbors down there uh show a little bit more
   10:47  interest in their property by helping keeping up the air around the sidewalk
   10:54  mode until we can get the owners to more air. That'd be a big help. And also
   11:04  I like to see them come out to our meeting and bring ideas about how we can improve our surroundings. You know
   11:14  uh I know there's a lot we can do but it take more than two or three peoples.
   11:22  take, you know, take the whole group, everyone to get involved and want to and and not not to look at it as
   11:32  you're doing it for me or Tammy, it's not that doing it for yourself. You know, if it's your property that you
   11:40  it's your property that you live on and the property next door is yours, too, cuz you live right around. That's the way I like them to look at that. Just
   11:48  because your name's not on it, but it's yours because you live next door. As long as you keep it up, it help keep
   11:57  your keep your property up. Make your property look cleaner and brighter.
   12:02  That's why I like I just want that's why I want to uh try to get a company before I step down.
   12:10  I'm sorry I'm running out of breakfast.
   12:13  I realize I ran late, so I had to kind of rush. Uh that's what I like to see get done.
   12:20  Uh I'm so thankful that uh we was able to uh get that green space in down there.
   12:30  Thankful council and then the mayor and the committee uh administration uh is uh really made a big difference.
   12:42  uh this uh for some reason another having problem getting the kids out. I don't think they've been using it cuz
   12:49  the reason I say that know we got that little hill there and uh but we got grass growing up in it. I mean kids have
   12:58  been down that plane they they had that grass trampled down so they haven't been using it enough. I
   13:08  just can't figure out why not. But uh it's a blessing to have that uh be able
   13:15  to get that done. Mr. Mayor uh he came down before he was mayor and help us uh
   13:24  clean up that grass uh glass broken glass and uh one day he was out and I said, "Well,
   13:33  look at watch better be I think I better be getting on to the house. My wife for me to come home for lunch.
   13:43  I said, "Well, we almost done, Mr. Mayor to be." He hung in there and helped us, you know, we got done. Yeah. Yeah.
   13:51  Well, we appreciate you and thank you for coming tonight. No problem. Sorry I late. Sorry I late. No problem.
   13:58  No, that's all right. And I The answer to getting more kids out is just turn the internet off. That's all I got to do.
   14:04  Yeah. Right. Uh maybe one day. So anyways, thank you all for coming in tonight. We'd like to get a photo with you. Everyone give them a round. Give them a hand.
   14:17  If you are interested in being part of a neighborhood association or want to be in charge of one, please see
   14:26  Deanna at city hall, our neighborhood association coordinator. Come on up. Let's get a picture.
   15:34  All
   15:46  right. Um, as always, following community spotlight, we go into the city employee
   15:53  spotlight. And tonight's city employee spotlight is for Mike Paskki. Mike, come on up here.
   16:02  Look at that.
   16:06  This is getting loud on me here. All right, Mike, come on up here. I got a few things to read here. Um, one of them
   16:14  is already on the screen behind me here, but I have other things. And um um I tell you what,
   16:21  the uh street department, so let me adjust this one. The street department really up the game on the um city
   16:28  employee spotlight tonight because I have multiple comments from co-workers and all that. like, "Wow." Um, Mike,
   16:35  you're a big deal. Um, so first off, I'll just, you know, Randy Height, who is our street department supervisor, by
   16:42  the way, Mike, tell me, what are your what is your official title? I am a citywide maintenance employee.
   16:48  Okay. Because I had asked that some people and people were like, I don't know, he just does everything. So, um, employee, but he does everything. So,
   16:56  uh, Randy, the, uh, street department supervisor, he said, um, you know, Mike Paskki has been an employee with the city of Marian since November of 2011.
   17:05  Mike has shown a work ethic above and beyond the norm. Mike is a classic case of city pride. Everything Mike does from taking care of all of Matter Park,
   17:13  mowing, weed eating, laying mulch, planting flowers, or plowing snow, he does as if the grounds were actually his property. Mike, as I like to call him,
   17:22  is a machine. He never fails. So, that's your new title, machine. There you go.
   17:27  He never fails to accomplish his weekly goals and still finds time to help out fellow co-workers, whether they are seasoned or rookies. Mike also plays a
   17:35  major role in the walkway of lights each year. Mike comes to work every day ready to go and ready to complete any task given to him. Mike is an excellent
   17:43  addition to the city as a whole. Um, so that was just one comment. So, um, Rose,
   17:52  um, our parks supervisor says Mike Paskki is a rare gem these days and gem
   17:58  capitalized. His dedication, work ethic, and passion for the parks is very evident in how M Park continues to shine
   18:05  each day. Mike plays a major role in the daily upkeep at upkeep at M Park, but is willing to jump in elsewhere when
   18:13  needed. Mike Pataskki plays a vital role in setting up, maintaining, and taking down the walkway of lights displays that many people from all over our great
   18:21  state come to enjoy each year. It has been a pleasure to work with Mike over the many years he has been with the parks department and I look forward to
   18:28  many more years of him being on our team. Job well done, Mike. That was from Rose. And I have kind of a mixed is this
   18:38  is a combination from Julie Fouser, Melissa Rogers, and Julia Glnner, aka the Gardens Girls, gals. The Gardens
   18:46  gals. Sorry, that's what they put on here. I'm not making that up. Uh they said, "Mike Pataski is a joy to work with. The camaraderie we have with him
   18:54  is amazing. He's a hardworking, detail-oriented machine." There we go again. It's your nickname. Uh, he single-handedly maintains a huge
   19:03  expansive motor park every week. Whether it's raining or the sun is blazing, he's out there mowing, string trimming, or spraying. Mike is great with the public
   19:11  and represents the city well. He's always willing to lend us a hand with anything, no matter what it is. We can't
   19:18  thank We can't think of another civil servant more deserving of this honor. Wow. Everyone give it up for Mike.
   19:26  [Applause]
   19:27  Wow.
   19:30  Uh, I don't need to say anything else. I mean, I feel like they did a fantastic job. You know, what an honor to have just your co-workers, your supervisors.
   19:39  Um, b basically these all were sent to me separately and they probably didn't know what all they said, but um um Mike
   19:46  aka the machine. What do you have to say about all this?
   19:49  Oh, no. Uh, thank you all so much. It's quite an honor. Um, uh, I worked with a great bunch of people. Bunch of them are
   19:56  back there in that corner. Um, uh, I really do take a lot of pleasure in, uh, taking care of Matter Park and
   20:04  making it, uh, great for the public to to hang out in and do what they do. Um, so we'll just, we'll see what the future holds.
   20:13  All right. Thank you.
   20:14  Sounds good. Any other council members who like to share anything?
   20:18  I think it sums up uh, what was written and what was presented. So, Mike, thank you so much for all you do for the city.
   20:25  You know what I can say? We talk about on the council here, we talk about Modern Park being, you know, such a gem, um, for the city, but it wouldn't be a
   20:33  gem without someone like you that takes care of it as if it's his own. So, uh, we really, really appreciate all you do for the city and and you know, you got
   20:42  about how many 30 more years to retirement, so you're not going anywhere. You're stuck with us. Um, Mike the Machine, Paskki, everyone give him one more hand.
   20:54  And we have to get a photo. So, come on up.
   21:39  Now, we just need about 15 more of Mike's. Um, city is always hiring. So, if you're if you also have the nickname
   21:47  the machine, then um make sure you put that on your application because we'll probably hire you. Um,
   21:54  all right. Moving on to the next part of the meeting here. The consent agenda for the approval of minutes for the regular
   22:00  meeting July 1st, 2025 and special meeting minutes July 8th, 2025 and consideration of pre-approved claims and consideration of claims. I want to
   22:09  make one note. If you noticed in the claims, and I appreciate Councilwoman Divine um catching this as well, um
   22:17  there were some claims in there that accidentally got put in. They're actually receipts from the redevelopment commission that approves its own claims.
   22:26  So, there are some in there that were accidentally scanned and attached. So, there are some that are not part of the claims, but it's already been handled
   22:35  and and handled with the redevelopment commission. So, just in case any of you saw some receipts, it was from the the trip to the convention um the RDC went
   22:43  on. Um so, anyways, with that being said, I would um entertain a motion.
   22:49  So, Mr. President, would you like the motion to be for the claims except for No, you can disapprove. They've already been Okay.
   22:57  They've already been approved through the RDC. So whether we approve them, it makes no difference.
   23:01  I make a motion that we pass the consent agenda in its entirety.
   23:06  Motion by Councilman Calgill to pass the consent agenda. Second by Councilman Kaine. Any discussion? Madame Deputy Clerk, roll call.
   23:15  Kane, I.
   23:16  Marshall, I. Forice. I.
   23:19  Runner. I Klene. Yes. Divine. Yes. Whitten. Yes. Cowgill.
   23:24  I Mckenley. Yes. And moving into committee reports. Do we have any committee reports?
   23:33  Councilman Galgo.
   23:39  We had a uh traffic commission uh meeting today. Um it was on two situations. one they was requesting a
   23:47  stop sign at Bellamy Boulevard and Bell Drive that um they've never had one there and they do needed I think it was
   23:55  just kind of an oversight so we granted that to put two stop signs up there and the other one was they wanted they're at
   24:04  Kerry and 31st Street it's actually it's a four-way stop but the stop signs are
   24:10  on 30 or Kerry I think and they want to make that a four-way stop So, uh, Deputy Chief Butchie was at the meeting today.
   24:19  He's going to pull records to see if they've had a lot of accidents at that, um, intersection and so we kind of
   24:26  tabled it until next month to be able to get that report and then we'll be able to determine because stop signs are never meant to slow down traffic. That's
   24:35  not what stop signs are for. So, we kind of see cuz sometimes if you take a situation and put stop signs and it really wasn't a problem, sometimes that
   24:44  can create a problem. So, um we tabled that one there until next month when we have further information from Deputy
   24:51  Chief Butchie on that. And then we adjourned.
   24:54  Thank you, Councilman Calgo. Any other committee reports?
   25:03  Councilwoman Divine.
   25:05  Okay. The border works met last week. Um they approved the bid for the um
   25:12  downtown sidewalks with CNF building solutions for 207,000.
   25:18  Um there was a series of vehicles and equipment that the street department had put out wanted declared a surplus and
   25:26  then had asked for bids. um when they put it out, they received what they thought were three bids, but were actually separate bids for only three or
   25:36  four of the vehicles and not the whole group. So, they decided to go ahead and try and readvertise and because they are
   25:43  trying to get rid of all of the equipment as a whole. Um, and they're asking for at least the scrap value of
   25:50  it or um, I think they were talking about whether to try and scrap it ourselves or to see if there's other individuals that want that. Um, they
   26:00  need for that to be uh, for people to bid on that and to get rid of it so they can get that salt barn put up. Where all that stuff is being
   26:08  stored right now is in the middle of of where the salt barn's going. Um
   26:16  they received uh the bids for work to be completed at the animal shelter um and
   26:23  did approve the bid by Pinnacle Contracting. So they're working on that contract and getting that set up for um
   26:31  the shelter to get all the repairs done there. Um they
   26:39  uh talked more with um Jacob Pulsey and um ESG about the energy savings
   26:47  um selection that uh which is for a a group to be able to help do kind of
   26:54  contracted work um to help with uh savings and cost containment for various projects. So
   27:03  what the um the board did was they approved it with the mayor to decide what phases what he wanted bid and what
   27:12  projects he wanted use done if at all um with that and that was it for the border
   27:20  works meeting. Um, we also had a committee meeting before the meeting today. Um, and I have made some
   27:27  suggestions for the um, the alleyway ordinance that was proposed and we'll um, hold another meeting here in a few
   27:35  weeks once we have an updated draft and we'll review that as well and bring recommendations back.
   27:44  Thank you, Councilwoman Divine.
   27:48  Any other committee reports?
   27:53  All right, we will move on to unfinished business. Uh, the Maring Utility Board opening and uh, Madame Deputy Clerk, I'll let you go ahead and read it all.
   28:06  Mayor and Utility Board opening for Marian Common Council. The Marian Common Council will soon have a position on the Marian Utility Service Board. The council is now accepting application and
   28:14  resumes to be considered for the appointed position. It is a four-year term that will run from August 1st, 2025 to July 31st, 2029. Deadline to submit résumés is July 11th, 2025 at noon.
   28:28  Résumés can be turned into the city clerk's office or emailed to council president at city of Marian.in.gov.
   28:35  Thank you so much for that. Uh we did have two applicants u for this utility board opening and
   28:42  I've spoken with both of them. Um it's Doug Carl and Mike Graf and I have told both of them ahead of time that they
   28:50  have three minutes to speak tonight to give their case of why they should be selected. After each one of them speaks, council members will have an opportunity
   28:58  to ask questions and then uh once they're both through, then we will go around the council and you just state the name of the one you want to vote
   29:06  for. So, we don't officially need a motion for it. Um so, yeah, we're going to invite Doug Carl up first. He was the first one to apply, so we'll just go in
   29:14  the order of applicant. And uh Doug, you've got three minutes and tell us why we should select you.
   29:21  Thank you, President McKinley and council members. Um, as he said, my name is Doug Carl and uh I appreciate the opportunity to come before the board to
   29:30  uh uh express my desire to be uh reappointed to the Mayor Utility Service Board. As you may note in the packet I
   29:37  sent in information, I've been on the board for 30 years. Uh I was appointed back in the uh Mayor Mitchell era when
   29:45  it seemed like the biggest issue we had at that point in time was water and sewer going to I69. Uh so it's been quite a while ago and I've lost a lot of
   29:53  hair since then too. So you may ask why I want to continue to be on the board for an additional four years. Uh I want to be a part of the positive
   30:02  contribution and a strong sides that have been made uh in the utility board for the benefit of the Marian city
   30:08  utility uh uh customers. Uh number two uh the utility board is in a will be in a period of transition next year in
   30:16  terms of the its leadership. as Bob Logan, who's been our longtime chair, uh is not going to seek reappoint next
   30:23  summer. I think Bob's said he's uh going to live the retired life totally. Uh I'd like to have that opportunity to step
   30:30  into the chairman's role for the current uh uh as currently I'm the vice chairman u and I want to lead the board uh at
   30:38  that point in time. Uh I believe that the continuity in the board is very important to not only the board members but uh to the uh management staff and
   30:47  the employees of the utility as well. Uh the last uh reason I want to be on there, I'd like to be able to continue to give back to this community. Uh I was
   30:55  born and raised here. Uh and I want to be a part of the uh continued growth in this community uh as long as I can be
   31:02  involved. I truly enjoy being on the utility board.
   31:06  uh when asked what my uh I may bring into the utility board in terms of uh areas of expertise, I think the first
   31:14  area of expertise I bring to the board is that I have a 23-year career in banking. Uh in particular, I was a commercial lender uh in this community
   31:22  for several years and it gave me a strong understanding of all aspects of financial statements, including fund accounting, which is used by the utility
   31:29  board. In addition, my 22 years as the CFO and EVP of the Collins Group has given me a strong background in
   31:36  budgeting and strategic planning, which I think is important for the board. Uh I feel number two reason I want to or what
   31:44  I bring to the board is I believe I have strong leadership skills. If you look at my uh resume, you'll see that I was on several nonprofits throughout my career
   31:53  and continue to be on nonprofits. uh and during that time I was elected to several executive positions on those boards uh also being president of many
   32:02  of those boards that you I have listed there. The last item is my experience over 30 years on the utility board has given me uh a total understanding of the
   32:10  overall operation of the utility which I think is invaluable for a board member.
   32:15  So I'd also like to add that I do appreciate what this what the mayor and the council have been doing for this community uh since their election. Uh
   32:23  you've got a tough decision to make tonight because you got two good candidates. Three minutes is up.
   32:27  Okay. I want to talk about my graph, but that's okay. Three minutes is up. Uh appreciate that. If you want to stay at the microphone.
   32:35  Any council members have questions for Doug?
   32:43  I guess I'm the only one usually. I don't know. Go right ahead. I always have a question. Right.
   32:47  Go ahead. Um, how will you balance affordability for rateayers with the need to invest in the long-term infrastructure?
   32:56  That's a very good question, uh, Nick.
   32:58  Uh, we have always tried to look at that in terms of what impact we have on rate increases to the, uh, consumer, but we
   33:05  also have to balance that against the, uh, you know, what's what we need within the utility itself. uh if you guys have all most of you guys have been involved
   33:14  in the uh approval of the rate increases obviously throughout the years and we've always tried to take that into consideration one of the things that
   33:21  we've tried to do is if we have do have a rate increase is that we don't try to do it all at one time we try to phase it in over a two or three year period which
   33:30  I think has been successful during that time period so
   33:42  That's okay.
   33:47  All right. Thank you. Um, so my followup on that is how do you I mean, you've been on the board for quite
   33:53  some time, 30 years, I think. How do you how would you grade your you and the board over the last 30 years on on
   34:02  balancing that the rate changes and and infrastructure? I think we've done a pretty good job of that. Uh, one of the things that we've talked as a board is
   34:10  that we've probably let uh the time pass longer than we should in terms of looking at rate increases. So, we we
   34:18  need to go to a shorter time period, maybe a three to five year period uh versus doing what we've done in the past. It's been sometimes we've had 15
   34:26  years before we've actually had a rate increase. And we've had to balance the budget and also projects based upon the money that we had versus what may be the
   34:33  money that we could have had if we done the rate increases earlier.
   34:38  Great. Thank you so much. Any other council members? Thank you so much, Doug. Appreciate it.
   34:46  And we'll invite Mike Graph up to the microphone at this time.
   34:54  And welcome Mike. You have three minutes. Uh, good evening. Thank you, Mr. President, members of the council.
   35:00  First off, I'd like to apologize for the early committee meeting. I was in Huntington because I became a great-grandfather, so I was not able to
   35:08  to attend your meeting. So, hopefully I'll get filled in on that. So, uh, as Doug said, you do have two good candidates. I wish you had two positions
   35:16  to open up because I think his expertise and and my technical background would blend nicely with each other. Uh, but unfortunately, you only have one. Uh,
   35:25  I'm not going to bel labor. Uh, everybody on the council pretty much knows me. Um, you have my resume. Uh, I
   35:34  don't don't think that I need to elaborate and over that unless you have questions. But, uh, I'm I'm looking
   35:41  forward to taking up something that I haven't done before. I've never been officially on any type of utility board.
   35:48  And uh I hope to bring my 34 years of service to the city onto that and
   35:55  represent the council uh this this sitting council uh as best I can.
   36:03  Great. Thank you. Any council members with questions? Are you going to ask him the question?
   36:09  I'm He's going to get the same qu every question.
   36:12  Might be an interesting question. I was going to No. Yeah. No, it's fair. Uh yeah. So the question is, you know, how we balance
   36:19  affordability for rateayers uh with the need to invest in long-term infrastructure.
   36:24  Well, I mean, I've been around utilities for a long time. I I've seen their struggles with uh when we gave them um
   36:32  handed over the solid waste district and how they've handled that. Uh they have a lot to to deal with with the uh combined
   36:39  sewer overflows. So there's a large uh burden on their shoulders. Uh, no one likes rate increases, no one likes
   36:47  taxes, but obviously those are those are hard things that uh that we have to put together in order to keep the um the
   36:56  services rendered uh to the to the folks. Uh I would agree with uh with Doug. It's never an easy thing and we
   37:04  and going 15 20 years before we ask for those and then you get hit with an
   37:11  intram incremental or a large large one is a little bit tougher than if we do it you know in in smaller phases. So great. Thank you.
   37:21  Yeah. Thank you. Any other council members? Okay. Thanks Mike. Appreciate it.
   37:31  Nothing but love in here. That's great.
   37:34  Okay. Any council members who want to uh make any statements before we go to a
   37:42  vote, which we will go around and basically state the name you want to vote for. Does any council member want to share anything?
   37:50  Okay. I wish we had two openings.
   37:54  I really do. Well, I mean, I could say I mean, there's one today, but it sounds like the mayor might have one coming up
   38:01  in the next year or two, and then the council, you know, we have more openings as they come along. So, um, it's, you know, not like it's the last one for a
   38:09  long time. They they do open up from time to time. So, um, okay. If no council members have anything else, then
   38:16  what we'll do is just start around the room with Councilman Kaine and just state the name of that the individual you would like to select.
   38:26  Well, I think everybody's going to have a tough decision on this, but I my vote is for Mr. Graph.
   38:36  Wow. Um, this I don't like these kinds of votes. I've had to do this several times now and uh makes me most
   38:42  uncomfortable. Um I um Doug Carl
   38:49  Mike Craft Mike Craft um
   38:57  I still wish we had two and we're g whoever gets this we're going to be in good shape. I'm going to go with Doug
   39:04  Carl because of his experience, his financial background. Um but as I said, wherever it is, we're in good shape.
   39:17  Uh, and I feel the same way that both candidates are excellent and would I'm sure either one would be amazing on the board. Um, I think I'm also going to go
   39:26  with experience and and time on the board and go with Doug Carl.
   39:32  I'm also going to vote for Doug Carl.
   39:40  man. Known both of you forever. You both are dynamite. Um,
   39:56  go with Mike. You guys kill me every time.
   40:03  Why do I sign up for this?
   40:07  have to start changing the order of these votes. Me go first.
   40:13  All right. So, um
   40:23  I was really hoping my vote was a no no impact, but good lord. Um,
   40:34  I will say I did talk to both of them and I will say did an interview over the phone with them and they both bring um different
   40:43  background, different qualities. I see the advantage to both of them being on that board. Um,
   40:53  and I greatly appreciate both of their service to entities they've been involved in. Um, but my vote is for my craft.
   41:06  So, madame deputy clerk, if you could give us the tally.
   41:11  Um, four for Doug Carl and five for Mike R.
   41:16  All right. Thank you for that. So, Mike Graph will be appointed effective um
   41:23  that was August 1st and it'll go to July 31st, 2029.
   41:28  And like I said, we do have more openings in the future. Um this is just the only one we have this year. And it was a very, very difficult decision, but
   41:37  I just absolutely want to give Doug Carl um I don't even know what words to say other than mega kudos. Mega, uh, thanks.
   41:48  Um, you've you've served the board very well. That's a long time to stick with a board. Um, and, uh, I think the council
   41:57  can speak as a whole that we greatly greatly appreciate your service, Deb. Yeah.
   42:05  [Applause]
   42:11  So, um, yes, we will move on from there and move into resolution 12-2025, food and beverage tax.
   42:28  Can you turn the other one on?
   42:36  Um, Danny, are any of them working? Is the podium working?
   42:46  Okay. Uh, Madame Deputy Clerk, if you just can you turn the microphone so you can read. Sorry about that.
   42:57  Resolution 12, 2022, Food and Beverage Tax. A resolution supporting the implementation of the city's food and beverage tax. The city is considering
   43:05  the adoption of a food and beverage tax ordinance general ordinance 14, 2025.
   43:11  Prior to its adoption, the city council must conduct a special hearing regarding the food and beverage tax and adopt a resolution in support of the food and
   43:18  beverage tax. On July 8th, 2025, the city council conducted a duly noticed public hearing regarding the food and beverage tax. The city council will now
   43:27  consider the adoption of this resolution supporting the food and beverage tax prior to final consideration of its food and beverage tax ordinance. Speaking, Mayor Morell.
   43:37  Sorry. Thank you. Um good evening everyone.
   43:42  It's a honor and a privilege to be before you again. Um here we are at our last steps of this uh food and beverage tax and um we have with us both our um
   43:51  legal representation and our financial advisors and myself obviously if there's any um questions on what we need to do to move forward from here.
   44:00  Thank you mayor. Um just as I stated last meeting for the public's information you're going to see that we have this resolution and then a third
   44:08  hearing. This resolution was just part of the way the law was adapted. Frankly, if you ask me, this is a waste um of a
   44:16  resolution, but we have to follow the law because essentially we're going to three readings with an ordinance. So, this resolution is more of a
   44:25  technicality that we have to check the box before we get to the final hearing.
   44:29  So, any council members with questions on this resolution?
   44:36  Great. If not, I would uh accept a motion.
   44:42  Mr. President, I move that we pass resolution number 12, 2025. Second.
   44:50  Motion by Councilman Kane, second by Councilman Brunner. Any discussion? Madame Deputy Clerk, roll call.
   44:56  I Yes.
   45:04  Yes.
   45:05  I Yes. Resolution 12, 2022 has passed and
   45:12  moving to general ordinance 14-2025, food and beverage tax. Third hearing,
   45:21  an ordinance of the city of Marian adopting a food and beverage tax on or around May 6, 2025, Governor Bronze
   45:28  signed House Enrolled Act 1427, which among other items amended Indiana Code 6961, allowing the fiscal body of
   45:36  the city of Marian excise tax known as the city food and beverage tax. The food and beverage tax applies to a transaction in which food and beverage
   45:44  is furnished, prepared, or served, one for consumption at a location on equipment provided by a retail merchant,
   45:51  two in the city, and three by a retail merchant for consideration. The food and beverage tax rate may not exceed 1% of the gross retail income received by the
   46:00  merchant from a qualifying food or beverage transaction. Money received by the city shall be distributed to the city's beverage fund and only utilized
   46:08  for economic development, parks and recreation andor pledging of money for bonds, leases or other obligations or for purposes. Um speaking, Mayor Morell.
   46:21  Um thank you again. So um this is our um third and final reading regarding the food and beverage tax. Um thank you all for going on this journey with u with me
   46:29  and this has been a uh educational experience for me and very challenging as well. So, um I I'll entertain any questions you have for this um third and
   46:38  final reading regarding the food and beverage tax. Any council members?
   46:48  If not, I would entertain a motion.
   46:52  Mr. President, I move that we pass general ordinance number 14, 2025.
   46:59  Second. Motion by Councilman Kaine, second by Councilman Calgill. Any other discussion?
   47:07  Madam Deputy Clerk, roll call.
   47:10  Ishel, I Yes. Yes. Yes.
   47:18  I Yes.
   47:21  General ordinance 14-2025 has passed. Moving into general ordinance 15-2025,
   47:28  payment in lie of taxes. Second reading and public hearing.
   47:32  An ordinance authorizing payment in lie of taxes for Vita of Marian. Vita of Marian LLC has developed, constructed,
   47:40  and currently operates an affordable housing development, providing assisted living services to lowincome seniors ages 62 and older. The project is
   47:48  subject to an extended use agreement as administered by the Indiana Housing and Community Development Authority for a period of at least 30 years. Pursuant to
   47:56  the extended use agreement, the project is limited to charging rents as determined in accordance with the extended use agreement and from time to time by the United States Department of
   48:05  Housing and Urban Development. The earner has the owner has agreed to make certain payments in lie of taxes and the city and owner desire to document that agreement in a written agreement.
   48:15  speaking, Chris Gryel from Barnes & Welcome. If you could just actually
   48:24  state your name. I know Chris isn't here tonight. Of course. Uh good evening. Uh Mr.
   48:28  Council President, members the council, Mayor Morell, members of the audience and community. My name is Max Adams. Uh here on behalf of Chris Gryel, I'm
   48:37  attorney with Barnes and Thornberg. uh here to present um made through the food and beverage tax stuff pretty easily. So now I'm here to present on the Jones
   48:44  Heritage stuff um general ordinance uh 15-2025 payment in le of taxes. So uh we have
   48:52  this uh Jones Heritage project which will be um taking the former Jones Middle School and turning that into multif family self storage industrial uh
   49:01  type of project. Um as part of that capital stack uh the owner of the Jones Heritage project is also the owner of
   49:08  the Vita of Marian uh community. Um they are agreeing to make uh payment in lie of taxes uh to help support the Jones
   49:16  Heritage project. So we have this VA of Marian. going to make they're going to pay essentially property taxes but instead of being paid into you know the
   49:24  general coffers of the city they're going to be paid into a separate fund which will be I believe later uh established later on during this uh
   49:32  meeting um and we will take those funds deposited into that account to help support the Jones Heritage Project help support the debt service on those bonds
   49:40  um so this this uh ordinance just establishes those payment L of taxes for that project happy to answer any questions you may have thank you so much Any council members?
   49:55  All right. If you want to have a seat, uh we will move into the public hearing portion of this.
   50:00  So, if you'd like to speak on this, please make your way to the microphone now.
   50:08  Give an extra second.
   50:12  I am not seeing anyone make their way to the microphone. All right.
   50:18  Seeing nothing, we will close the public hearing.
   50:22  And any council members have any further questions? And if not, I would entertain a motion.
   50:29  Mr. President, like to make a motion that we suspend the rules on general ordinance 1520.
   50:36  Second. A motion to suspend the rules by Councilman Calgill, second by Councilman Kaine. Any discussion?
   50:44  Madame Deputy Clerk, roll call.
   50:48  I Marshall I I Yes. Yes.
   50:55  Yes.
   50:56  I Yes. Rules have been suspended. I'd entertain another motion.
   51:01  Mr. President, now I'd like to make a motion that we pass general ordinance 1520.
   51:07  Second. Motion by Councilman Calgill to pass general ordinance 15 2022. A second by Councilman Kaine. Any discussion?
   51:18  And would you mind turning one of those microphones on somewhere so we can catch your audio? Madame Deputy Clerk, just for people at home to be able to hear. Is it on? Okay, it's already on.
   51:29  Thank you. Just for people at home. Okay. Madame Deputy Clerk, roll call. Kain. I. Marshall. I.
   51:37  Forice. I. Runner. I. Klene. Yes. Divine. Yes. Whitten. Yes. Calgill. Hi.
   51:44  Mckinley. Yes, general ordinance 15-2025 has passed.
   51:50  Okay, so the next one is general ordinance 16-2025 issuance of taxable economic revenue bonds. It was a second reading in public
   51:57  hearing. However, um there was an issue with the publication um for this with the newspaper. So
   52:05  technically, uh, we have to, um, we're going to have to table this to the next meeting because it wasn't published in
   52:13  time to in order to have this second reading public hearing. And so, yeah, I
   52:20  would entertain a motion to table this to the next meeting.
   52:27  All right. I've got a motion by Councilman Brunner. Do I'll make it a second.
   52:31  Second by Councilman Klene. Any discussion? Madame Deputy Clerk, roll call.
   52:39  Kane, I.
   52:40  Marshall, I. Forice. Hi. Runner. Hi. Klein. Yes. Divine. Yes. Whitten. Yes. Calgill. Hi.
   52:48  McKinley.
   52:49  Yes. So, this will be tabled and come back at the next council meeting August 5th for Jen Ordinance 16, 2025. Sorry
   52:59  about that. If you came for the public hearing, I apologize. You're welcome to come back at the next meeting. Moving into additional appropriation 10-2025,
   53:08  aviation equipment, second reading and public hearing.
   53:13  An appropriation appropriating funds in the amount of $83,147.86 for aviation. Aviation formally requests
   53:22  an additional appropriation of funds for the necessary replacement of our underground underground fuel storage tanks. Speaking Rayosh.
   53:31  Welcome back.
   53:32  Thank you. Thank you, President McKinley and members of the council. Appreciate the opportunity to present to you again this month. I am Ray Dash, president of
   53:39  the Merian Board of Aviation, who is requesting uh respectfully a an additional appropriation of $83,147.86
   53:48  for the replacement of these underground storage tanks. Uh considering that project costs have increased significantly since initial estimates.
   53:57  And just summarizing comments from uh uh previous meeting, there is an urgent need for this replacement, we believe,
   54:04  because the uh current underground storage tanks are 38 years old, surpassing their 30-year rated life. Uh
   54:13  posing risks such as fuel leaks and fuel on availability along with the potential need for costly soil remediation should there be a leak.
   54:21  Uh though 400,000 was previously appropriated, project costs have roughly doubled due to multiple factors
   54:28  necessitating additional funds to cover our shortfall. The JA system is federally funded. However, the 100
   54:35  lowled AG gas system does not qualify for federal funding due to the lower demand
   54:43  and the new system will use 12,000galon above ground storage tanks, excuse me,
   54:49  and requires the removal of the 100 lowled AB gas underground storage tanks before construction to avoid costly
   54:58  redesigns and ensure proh system efficiency, especially given increased local demand from our increased aviation training programs.
   55:09  We I have spoken with the uh by the request that you made of me last uh
   55:16  meeting to look into funding from county and gas city. I have spoken with the president of the county council who has
   55:25  been in touch with member the majority of his members and he found no support for bringing this uh before them. This
   55:34  is what we've run into in the past. Uh on the other hand, Gas City Mayor Bill Rock informed a member of our board that they may have some funds available.
   55:44  However, the mayor was at that time departing on an Alaska vacation and therefore there has been no progress uh on that front to the to date.
   55:56  Great. Thank you so much. Um, we're going to open up for council members ask questions and then if not then we'll go to the public hearing on this soon.
   56:06  I know you had some information about another way of doing this with a company that may have been cheaper. Explain
   56:14  again why you couldn't do that. Well, it would require a complete redesign of the project and uh would uh uh we have
   56:22  already applied for federal grant on the uh jet A system. It would require a
   56:28  redesign of the system to uh to redo. We would essentially have to do the jet A
   56:36  system as though we were not doing the AG gas system and it would have to be redesigned and we're already under
   56:43  contract for that. Uh could you add anything? Sure.
   56:49  So Ryan Ryan McCraky with Walpert uh the engineering consultant for the airport.
   56:54  Uh when we first started this project uh the primary goal of the project was to eliminate underground tanks uh due to
   57:02  future uh environmental concerns and maintenance concerns. So the primary goal was to eliminate the underground
   57:08  altogether. Uh when we went to the FAA to justify this, they said a complete replacement would qualify for uh federal
   57:18  funds and then for the jet A tank. Uh so we went along with that the complete replacement. If we were just going to
   57:25  retrofit, which was the company that somebody recommended, uh that would be a maintenance issue and no federal funds would be granted for that. So it was a
   57:34  difference between maintenance and a full replacement. Thank you.
   57:43  If no council members have questions at the moment, we'll go to public hearing and come back for questions if that's all right.
   57:50  Thank you.
   57:53  Okay, the public hearing is open. If you could just state your name if you come to the microphone. You have three minutes. So, we'll open the public hearing now if you'd like to speak.
   58:12  I'm not seeing anyone move.
   58:15  All right, last chance.
   58:20  Okay, I don't see anyone come to the microphone. So, we're going to close the public hearing for the aviation equipment.
   58:29  Any council members with more questions?
   58:32  Councilwoman Divine, um, do we know where these additional funds are coming from or are they just coming out of the unappropriated fund in general?
   58:45  That's what I was. Yep.
   58:53  Other council members, Council Member Honor.
   58:57  Um, I believe Mr. Uh the president of the uh
   59:03  C city um council is back in town and I think he is willing to make a uh
   59:11  donation. So I think we should table this until we hear from uh that gentleman, Mr. Rock.
   59:21  In fact, I would like to make that motion.
   59:23  Okay. So, you have a motion that you want to table this table till we can hear from uh Mayor Rock. Okay.
   59:29  Because he is back from Alaska. Well, I have a motion on the floor.
   59:37  Um we have any Do we have a second on that? If not, I have an idea. Council Klein.
   59:44  No, I'm not going to second. But could not we pass this to third reading and amend it if we have to? that keeps it
   59:52  alive and not having to backtrack at all.
   59:56  That was my thought too. Kind of go along that lines of that. I would agree with that. Pass this. I would agree with that.
 1:00:03  Okay. Would you like to rescend your motion? I would resend my motion.
 1:00:08  Okay. Or died for lack of second be rescended. But uh yeah, so I agree. I think we definitely want to hear from Gas City. If we pass the second reading,
 1:00:17  we can move to the third reading. And that gives us actually an extra week because it's not till August 5th. And that give us plenty of time to speak
 1:00:24  with the mayor and um the their city council president as well. I I would
 1:00:30  encourage the gas city government to um strongly consider any kind of
 1:00:38  contribution to this um because this airport serves well really it serves an entire county but it definitely serves quite a bit in over in Gas City as well.
 1:00:46  also disappointed to hear that the county is not uh going to help us out.
 1:00:53  Thank you for that. Any other council members?
 1:01:00  If not, I would accept a motion.
 1:01:03  Uh Mr. President, I move we pass general ordinance to I just forgot the number. a general
 1:01:11  ordinance or additional appropriation 10, forgive me, to a third reading.
 1:01:16  Second motion to approve additional appropriation 10-2025 by Councilman
 1:01:23  Klein, second by Councilman Kaine to a third reading. Any other discussion? Madame Deputy Clerk, roll call.
 1:01:32  Kain, I.
 1:01:33  Marshall, I Runner, I.
 1:01:37  Klein, yes. Divine. Yes. Whitten. Yes. Calgill.
 1:01:41  I McKinley.
 1:01:42  Yes. Additional appropriation 102025 will go to a third reading at our next meeting on August 5th. Thank you so much
 1:01:49  for coming in tonight. And moving into general ordinance 17-2025 changing the direction of Second Street.
 1:01:58  Second reading of public hearing. Um notation on this one. Um you know what I like to do is still have
 1:02:06  the public hearing if somebody came to speak on this. uh you know and took time out their evening. Um some things have
 1:02:12  changed since the the first reading. Um I sit as the vice president on the redevelopment commission and um the
 1:02:21  redevelopment commission would like to sponsor and conduct a larger study for
 1:02:28  traffic flow downtown Marian and the riverfront.
 1:02:32  um not only because we have an active project going, but we do have some potential projects and a vision from the
 1:02:38  RDC and the mayor of downtown and we think it would be wise to maybe look at the larger picture before I hate to say
 1:02:47  this word kind of peacemealing the oneways, two ways and the reversals of one ways. So, um, the redevelopment
 1:02:55  commission would like to pay for that, sponsor that and, um, and then, so my request is that, you know, we we can have this second reading public hearing.
 1:03:06  Um, but then my request would be that we table this pending the results from the redevelopment commission's traffic study of downtown and the riverfront.
 1:03:18  So, any questions from the council members, comments?
 1:03:23  concerns. Mayor, you good with that?
 1:03:30  Okay. Well, I'm going to go ahead since somebody might have come tonight and move into the public hearing. If you want to speak on this, this was to
 1:03:38  actually reverse the one way from Branson and Adams the other direction. So, it's not making
 1:03:46  it a two-way. The way it's written is to just flip it and go the opposite direction one way for one block.
 1:03:55  Councilman Klein, just a question. If this is altered while it's on the table, we can do another public hearing to hear about the
 1:04:02  new stuff, right? Okay, that is correct. Yep. If we I mean, if at the end of the day, we can bring this
 1:04:09  back and vote it down if the commission comes back with a study that shows something drastically different. If the commission comes back with something
 1:04:17  that supports this, then we can just bring it as presented and make that decision. If it's d if it's altered, then we would probably have to restart
 1:04:26  the process. Um, but I just wanted just in case somebody came for the public hearing to come up and speak. So, if
 1:04:34  you'd like to speak on this, make your way to the microphone. Public hearing is open.
 1:04:45  Okay, I don't see anyone making their way to the microphone.
 1:04:50  Oh, Bill. Uh, no one's making a microphone. So, we'll close the public hearing and um I would request a motion to table this.
 1:05:00  Mr. President. Um, as uh I sit on the chair with the traffic commission and
 1:05:07  with I'm the chair of the u public safety. I agree with this. I think if they're going to the RDC is graciously
 1:05:15  going to do this, especially with the River Rock and all kinds of different stuff going on. Um, we can only benefit from a study. So, I make a motion that we table this.
 1:05:26  Second. Motion by Councilman Calgill, second by Councilman Kaine to table general ordinance 17205.
 1:05:34  Any other discussion? Madame Deputy Clerk, roll call.
 1:05:39  Kane, I.
 1:05:40  Marshall, I.
 1:05:41  Ordise, I.
 1:05:43  Runner, I.
 1:05:44  Klein, yes. Divine. Yes. Whitten. Yes. Calgill. I. McKinley.
 1:05:50  Yes. So, that will be tabled. Looking forward to seeing that study. There are uh some companies out there that are really good at these traffic studies,
 1:05:59  not just on flow, but on guidance. I will make a a footnote on this is that um since that first reading, I've also
 1:06:07  heard additional comments about when people come to town, they can't believe how many one-way streets we have. So, we'll see what this study says about one
 1:06:15  ways versus two ways, and uh we'll go from there. Uh moving into new business.
 1:06:22  Um, make sure I didn't skip anything here.
 1:06:26  Yep. Yep. New business, resolution 11-2025, adopting a multi-hazard mitigation plan.
 1:06:37  A resolution approving the adoption of Grant County multi-hazard plan. The risk analysis branch of FEMA region 5 mitigation division has determined the
 1:06:46  local mitigation plan meets all applicable FEMA mitigation planning requirements except its adoption by the participating jurisdiction of the Grant
 1:06:54  County 2025 hazard mitigation plan. An approved local mitigation plan including adoption by the local government is one
 1:07:01  of the conditions for applying for and or receiving FEMA mitigation grants from the following programs. Hazard Mitigation Grant Program, post fire
 1:07:10  building resilient infrastructure and communities, flood mitigation assistance, safeguarding tomorrow revolving loan fund. Speaking Bob
 1:07:17  Jackson, executive director, community or grant county EMA, welcome Bob.
 1:07:23  Good evening. Thank you, Mr. President, council members for hearing me today.
 1:07:26  Mr. Mayor, um, so this has been a uh a work in progress for some time. We were held back by CO a little bit with the federal government, but uh we've moved
 1:07:35  forward. Every five years, every county in the nation is required to do a update their hazard mitigation plan. So, uh
 1:07:42  this was ours. Uh we finished it earlier this year. The uh county commissioners did adopt the final plan uh June June
 1:07:51  16th, I believe it was. Um so in that regard every municipality every uh political jurisdiction has to adopt it
 1:07:58  uh on their own to be eligible for funding uh federal government funding for mitigation projects andor even in
 1:08:06  the event of a de a disaster that uh public assistant funds would be available to us. Uh so there again, it's it's kind of a formality. Uh but if it's
 1:08:15  passed here tonight, then I will take uh that resolution with all the other resolutions from the cities and towns in Grant County and we'll forward that to
 1:08:23  FEMA and we'll be officially recorded uh with them. Be happy to answer any questions you might have.
 1:08:30  Thank you so much for doing this, Bob.
 1:08:32  This is very important work. Any other council members?
 1:08:36  Not having read the earlier, what kind of stuff did you have to change, want to change, did you change? Uh, actually not very much was changed.
 1:08:45  We look at historical data. Um, our big threats here is usually weather, uh, tornadoes. So, we have the historical
 1:08:52  data for tornadoes and also there is the the potential for flooding. Um, particularly within the city of Marion, there's a couple projects historically
 1:09:00  we've looked at. we'd like to maybe the city at some point um would like to take on uh eliminating the dam was was a big
 1:09:09  project that that was has already been done and taken care of, but uh there still in lies some others and we looked at you know every possible hazard uh and
 1:09:18  threat that that could potentially come our way and then we build the plans around that.
 1:09:25  And we we did receive uh a grant to to conduct this u program, this project. Uh
 1:09:31  about $24,000 was paid for and uh your city police department, fire department, uh Mr. Graph, and I know some of the
 1:09:39  council members even attended some public meetings we had. So there again, we got input from uh all across the county, uh the city included, to uh look at what potential hazards are there.
 1:09:50  Thank you so much for that. Um, since you have all of our attention, what would be one more thing the city can do other than the dam? What would be the next thing you would ask?
 1:10:00  Uh, in a public meeting, I'd be cautious a little bit, but uh, absolutely. Um, so we do have, we know
 1:10:09  we have a levy uh, situation down here uh, right along Ballard Field. That is probably a a potential for us to something we should look at.
 1:10:19  All right. Thank you for that.
 1:10:22  Don't worry. We're just going to put a really nice complex down there for sports, right, Mayor?
 1:10:28  Be great. That's a good time to reaffirm that levy where we There you go. Yes. All right. Any other council members? Yeah, that's what I was going to ask.
 1:10:36  You're going to Yeah, safeguard the levy before the project starts, right?
 1:10:40  That would be a good idea. And that hopefully we, you know, I don't know what the federal government's going to do or even if FEMA is going to exist in their current form. Uh but we think that
 1:10:49  that will be revamped and there again if we don't do this we know we're out of the running for any federal funds but that would be an excellent project to uh apply for federal funding.
 1:11:01  Mr. Go ahead Mr. Jackson. What what type of of relief on the levy has removing the Charles
 1:11:08  Mill Dam, how has that affected the the levy? Has it relieved the pressure from that during severe rains?
 1:11:17  Yes. So it it really was a matter of pressure. Uh so when I when I talked to the engineers that were down there um and you hired an excellent firm, they
 1:11:26  they do very good work. So really it wasn't so much of a flooding uh potential because it really doesn't doesn't change that very much, but the
 1:11:34  flow of the so velocity it it's it takes a lot of the pressure off of that levy.
 1:11:38  So it it was a big deal and it did help you in that regard. I believe back in the Ron Meery administration,
 1:11:47  we had some flooding and uh we were worried at that time that that levy was going to break. Absolutely.
 1:11:55  And that was to to give you a funny story. He thought he would drive his car down there and check it out and
 1:12:03  got flooded out actually in his car. So yeah, lesson learned.
 1:12:08  Yep. Stone Crest Manor is is another one. another area that uh we've done some work, but there again uh when the river does flood down there, those those folks become landlocked.
 1:12:23  Thank you. Any other council members?
 1:12:26  Councilwoman Divine, um would this also be one of the tools that we could use to push at FEMA to look at our flood plane and how that's
 1:12:34  changed from the dam coming down to help relieve some of that flood insurance and costs to those that have homes and businesses along there?
 1:12:44  That is an excellent question. Uh, I will be happy to reach out to to my FEMA rep um because I don't know that that has actually been done. But since the
 1:12:52  the dam has been removed that probably that study, you know, it probably does warrant having a study there.
 1:12:57  Absolutely. And anything we can do there again, if we can help the citizens of city in regard to flood insurance, it's very costly.
 1:13:05  I really do think Bob that that is an excellent question because before we had a lot of flooding I know what you're talking about under Mayor
 1:13:13  Mauy also under Mayor Seabull we had things was bad and during the rain so far well my first indication I haven't
 1:13:22  seen Hong Kong restaurant underwater yet that was always the very first thing to go so I think that dam coming out has changed a lot for us
 1:13:29  yeah probably more so than than most of us probably realize it and you know and You do an excellent job. I mean, I I honestly truly I can't
 1:13:37  think of anybody being an emergency worker myself better doing this job. You do an excellent job. Uh hazmat is one
 1:13:45  thing I didn't hold any certain. I wanted no part. I fought black smoke, the green smoke, blue smoke. I didn't want any part of that. Right. You do an excellent job. Seriously.
 1:13:53  Well, thank you. Well, we, you know, I'm I'm appointed by the commissioners, but I work for all 66,000 residents in the
 1:14:00  county, including the city, and and I absolutely feel an obligation to be responsive to this body as well.
 1:14:08  Thank you. Any other council members?
 1:14:10  Just just a comment just to let everybody know what kind of work this is. This this is it right here. This is it.
 1:14:18  And uh 159 pages. There's a lot of work that went into that. So, we appreciate that, Mr. Jackson.
 1:14:27  Glad to do it.
 1:14:28  And like I said, I I had a lot of help uh since I've taken this job and three months into it, COVID hit. Uh but uh the
 1:14:36  amount of people that work to keep people safe in this city and in the county, the amount of people every day is is staggering and appreciate that
 1:14:44  because one man does not do it by himself.
 1:14:49  Great. Thank you. Any other council members?
 1:14:54  All right. With nothing else, I would entertain a motion. Mr. President, go ahead.
 1:15:03  I move that we pass resolution number 11, 2025.
 1:15:09  Motion by Councilman Kaine to pass resolution 112025. Second by Councilman Calgill. Any other discussion?
 1:15:18  Madame Deputy Clerk, roll call. Kane I Marshall I runner I Klein yes
 1:15:26  Divine yes Whitten yes Cgill I Mckenley yes thank you so much Bob appreciate
 1:15:33  everything you do resolution 112025 has passed moving into resolution 13-2025
 1:15:41  creating a special non-reverting fund a resolution creating a special
 1:15:49  non-reverting fund in accordance with IC 52515.5 VA of Marion. On July 1st, 2025, the
 1:15:58  council adopted resolution 10 20225 approving certain project agreements concerning the Jones Heritage Project,
 1:16:05  which project represents a collective investment of approximately $40 million.
 1:16:10  Additionally, the city has adopted ordinance number 152025 which requires Vita of Marion to make certain pilot
 1:16:17  payments to the city. In accordance with the state law, those pilot payments must be placed into this new local fund. Any pilot payments received by Vita will be
 1:16:25  distributed to the Jones project and applied to the bond payments. Speaking Barnes and Thorberg.
 1:16:35  Welcome back. Glad to be back. Uh thank you, Mr.
 1:16:38  Council President, members of the council. Mr. Mayor, members of the community, Max Adams with Barnes and Thornberg. Again, uh like I mentioned
 1:16:44  during my last uh presentation, uh the payment in lie of taxes need to go into a special fund in the city. That is a
 1:16:52  state law requirements of this resolution does exactly that. Happy to answer any questions.
 1:16:58  Thank you, Max. Any council members with questions? If not, I'd entertain a motion.
 1:17:08  Mr. President like to make a motion that we pass resolution 132025. Second.
 1:17:15  Motion by Councilman Calgill, a second by Councilman Kaine to pass resolution 13205.
 1:17:22  Any discussion? Madame Deputy clerk, roll call.
 1:17:27  Kane, I.
 1:17:28  Marshall, I. Forice. I. Runner. I. Klein. Yes. Divine. Yes. Whitten. Yes. Calgill. I.
 1:17:36  Mckenley. Yes. Resolution 1320 2025 has passed. Thank you, Max, for coming up.
 1:17:42  And moving it to sidewalk 5050 request.
 1:17:47  I'm going to go ahead and take this one for you. Um, so, um, Mike Graph, could you can you come up to the microphone?
 1:17:56  Um, so yeah, it says on here, the city council members have money budgeted to help residents match the 50/50 that the city provides. However, the city's
 1:18:03  portion of the 50/50 has been depleted due to an abundance of requests. That's a great problem to have. City engineer Mike
 1:18:11  Graph would like the request for council members to allow their budget amount remaining be used for the city's 5050 portion. There's a wait list of
 1:18:19  residents that are willing to pay their entire 50% portion and releasing these funds from council members would allow the city to move forward with more
 1:18:27  sidewalk repairs this year. And we'll say, I mean, at the end of the day, whether it's the council funds or we'll say the city funds, they're all taxpayer
 1:18:36  city funds, right? And I acknowledge that, but you know, we had allocated some for the council members to decide
 1:18:44  to match, we'll say, the administration's portion that was budgeted or or or the homeowners to where they almost pay zero.
 1:18:53  Yes, we we would help contribute to that. Um, but uh the city has run out.
 1:18:58  um because so many people are wanting to upgrade their sidewalks, which is music to my ears and there's quite a bit of funds left. I emailed the entire council
 1:19:06  the spreadsheet that showed how much was left in each of your appropriations, we'll call it, and um so
 1:19:14  I'm going to go ahead and let Mike speak. Yeah, thank you. Uh thank you, Mr.
 1:19:18  President. So, uh again, that it is a good thing that uh we exhausted all of our budgeted uh 5050 sidewalk. Uh we
 1:19:26  have used a little bit of uh each of the council wards um uh funds, but uh when
 1:19:34  you look at this type of work, it is it's a very limited window of what we have to work with. And if we've got people that are on a waiting list and
 1:19:42  they and we can try to get it done for them this year, uh, as opposed to trying to come to each individually, one of you in the wards or trying to
 1:19:50  bring at large together with individuals, we just thought it would just be easier if you just said, "Here's
 1:19:57  our pot of money. Go after the the folks that want to try to get that. If there's any left, which uh, you know, even if it
 1:20:04  was in your account account, it's going to go back to the general fund." So, I don't think it's non-reverting. you would you you're a little bit better on the non-reverting stuff than I am,
 1:20:12  Councilman Ford. I so I don't think it's a non-reverting. So, it would go back to the general fund. And then whether we want to look at that again next year to
 1:20:20  have every uh ward have additional funds, that would be up to the administration. But at this point, uh
 1:20:26  that's my request is if if you are in favor of turning it over to the engineering department and allowing us to go back to the people that are
 1:20:34  already on the waiting list and let them know we can try to get to them, that'd be great.
 1:20:40  Um, I had already made a verbal commitment to a constituent. Can I get you that name?
 1:20:45  Absolutely. Yeah. We don't want to if you've already got something in the works.
 1:20:49  Yeah, I I do and I believe they've reached out to your department, but I what happened? Yes.
 1:20:54  And then also, can I request that the money stays in district five or does that convolute things too?
 1:21:02  It kind of does because if I don't have anybody coming to me now in that then Okay. That kind of kind of styies me.
 1:21:09  I have no issue, but I would like to uh I'll forward you an email. Absolutely.
 1:21:14  Of the commitment I made to a conituent. Uh so that would be again the city doesn't have any 5050, but if if if
 1:21:23  we put this in then we can use the allocated funds from other wards along with your money that you want to apply to that ward. That's fine. Yep. Glad to help.
 1:21:31  Absolutely. I've had a lot of, as you know, calls with the when it comes to the sidewalk situation and mayor, I give
 1:21:39  you kudos. This I think this has been a great thing and it I I like that each ward member has their own ward that they
 1:21:47  can use that in and then the at large people we can help out where needed.
 1:21:54  I think that we ought to keep it like it is, but then they come this time of year if there's money left. I think it's great to put it towards that because
 1:22:01  there's no sense of people on a list if we've got the money there to do it, right?
 1:22:05  So, but I think this is a great uh great idea on this 50/50 on the sidewalks.
 1:22:13  Not a problem with this, but this isn't the first time this has happened. Last year, I had a constituent
 1:22:20  who came to me. She had the money for her 50%. The city didn't have the money, right? So
 1:22:28  I had I had all but a hundred dollars of it and I said, "Okay, use this for the city." Councilman McKinley ponyed up the other $100 as I recall.
 1:22:40  So and this year we've run out. Can we budget? I mean, can we can you tell for
 1:22:47  whatever you want? You just have to accept it.
 1:22:51  The mayor has to accept it and bring it to you. It's if we see this here uh as we have I would prefer it it it be that
 1:22:59  way because it's much easier for me to talk to individuals rather than saying hey uh have you have you contacted your
 1:23:07  ward uh because a lot of people be quite honest with you don't know who to call.
 1:23:12  So we give them contact information uh for them to reach out to you folks. Uh, and then sometimes it takes, you know,
 1:23:20  if you don't want to give all of your money, then we're still looking at, you know, making contact with all all the awards. We we try to work that way, but
 1:23:28  sometimes it gets a little gets a little tedious. But I mean, it's a good thing people are still wanting to do it. So, very happy about that.
 1:23:38  But can, and I guess this is maybe more for the mayor than for you, but what can the city do? And I don't like asking
 1:23:47  increase the budget, you know, but so we don't have to do this for the third year in a row.
 1:23:55  So, um I mean I'm I'm actually really honored that we continue to run out.
 1:23:59  That means people are taking advantage of the program. Um so, yeah, we could we could always add more funds into this and then um see how see if they people
 1:24:08  can keep running them out or not, but the I mean the goal is for them to run out and then um obviously the goal is for all you to run out too. So that's
 1:24:15  our hope every single year that these funds are completely exhausted to their full extent.
 1:24:22  Thank you. So also I wanted to mention I did the tally the as of the spreadsheet that was sent to us the total amount left is $46,750.
 1:24:33  So that's what's the total left all of us combined.
 1:24:37  Um and I will say you know people are welcome to replace their sidewalk without the 50/50 match too. So, don't
 1:24:45  and I I say that seriously like if you want to replace it and there's no money, you can do that. You don't have to have the 50/50, but of course, you know, why not take advantage of it? It's there.
 1:24:55  But 46,750 and most of us have quite a bit left. Some of you have all of it left. Um so maybe we can use this as a
 1:25:03  call to the public, whoever is listening or watching. Um if you're wanting to to get in on this this year, go ahead. If not, you're going have to wait till next year again. any other council members.
 1:25:17  So, there's no question. Sorry. Um, and then mayor, is there a additional fund where
 1:25:25  people can have help with taking trees down? Did I hear that? Or is that part of the sidewalk fund?
 1:25:31  Remind me. Um, trees in the near the sidewalk or in the rightway area. So we have
 1:25:41  we had early on discussions about whether the allocated funds could be used for anything within the rideway. Uh
 1:25:49  I think that was open for interpretation. I think most everybody thought it was just for the sidewalk. Uh I mean we can always help with trees. Uh
 1:25:58  it's just we you just need to be very cognizant of if you do that that the tree may be the culprit for the
 1:26:07  sidewalk and that prevents somebody from saying well I can't afford to do the sidewalk because I've got to pay for the tree. So there it does kind of go hand
 1:26:15  inand a little bit with those with that project.
 1:26:24  Great question. We do have a lot of tree blight and tree issues. I think maybe we definitely need to dive in a little more during the budget process.
 1:26:31  Um, but this one does not require a motion. It's just nothing official. It's just if basically if you're a council
 1:26:39  member and you object and you don't want yours to be used, just please let Mike know. Uh, I will go on record say you're
 1:26:46  welcome to use mine for the city 5050 match. So, um, does it any council members object or want to reserve some of that?
 1:26:57  Okay, sounds good. If you know, if you want to tell them in private, you're welcome to, but no motions needed. We just want to have that discussion with everyone here.
 1:27:05  Okay. And moving to additional appropriation 11-2025, additional appropriation for center township trustee first hearing.
 1:27:23  an appropriation requesting $300,000 for the center township trustee for the purpose of maintenance and re revitalization of estates of serenity
 1:27:31  cemetery. The city of Marian is requesting $300,000 in additional appropriation to center township trustee to help maintain the estates of
 1:27:40  serenity. Speaking Deborah Kaine, center township trustee.
 1:27:49  Good evening and welcome.
 1:27:51  President, council, mayor, and the citizens.
 1:27:56  So, it's been a year exactly almost to date that I came to you for the first time.
 1:28:01  It was the second hearing that I came to you that I heard that Mr. Jeffrey hired a lawyer. I was intentionally
 1:28:11  wanted to work with him oneon- one and tried to come to some agreement, try to come to some working, but he hired
 1:28:20  counsel, which then forced me to hire counsel, which then stepped up this this um endeavor of mine to a different level.
 1:28:31  As you know, the cemetery is part in the city, part in the county. There was a 2024 appropriation approved.
 1:28:40  The defendant asked for a continuence three times in the court hearing. So, we were not able to hear it in in in 2024.
 1:28:50  It had to roll into 25. And we just heard it on June 30th.
 1:28:58  On June 7th, I mean July 7th, pardon me, the court ordered in my favor in a declaratory
 1:29:06  judgment awarding me complete and full administration of control of all aspects
 1:29:14  of the cemetery. That's all aspects, finances, real property, personal property.
 1:29:22  for a whole year.
 1:29:25  A whole year we all watched and continued to watch the neglect of the cemetery. I stood on the front
 1:29:34  lines. I finished the battle that I told you I would do in July, a year ago.
 1:29:42  I did what was asked. I completed the fight and the task to gain control of the cemetery. Now you can step on that line with me and vote yes.
 1:29:54  I want to read I want to read a letter from SOS which is save our stories.
 1:30:02  Dear Deb, on behalf of the board of SOS Marian, we are grateful for your successful work in saving the estates of
 1:30:10  serenity from its severe neglect and decline over recent years. year. Many hours spent in research, paperwork,
 1:30:19  public meetings, volunteering for cleanup work are appreciated. The cemetery has been the final resting place for the remains of over 30,000 of our fellow citizens for over 200 years.
 1:30:32  Men, women, children, persons of all races, religions, poppers, and bankers are there. For many years, families have
 1:30:42  continued to visit graves of family members to honor the time that they were with us, pay respect to their struggles,
 1:30:49  to build a home, raise children, work in our factories and farms, to fight for freedom, and to hold up their corner of
 1:30:57  the world. Your efforts have not only preserved the physical space, but also the memories and legacies of these individuals, providing comfort and
 1:31:06  soloulless for their beloved ones. Thank you for your work in striving to lift our ancestors and to save them from
 1:31:13  disrespect and abandonment. Thank you also for your commitment to community action as a servant leader. We of SOS
 1:31:22  Marian salute you and promise our unwavering support in working together in the restoration of the sacred ground.
 1:31:30  Respectfully, Sue Brton, president and Bill Mun, Marian board member.
 1:31:37  my phone, my cell phone, the office phone, both the township office and the cemetery has had a revolving door of
 1:31:47  people just coming to say thank you.
 1:31:53  I have a story this morning. And I was on the way to the cemetery office and I passed a a trash truck and I thought, "Oh man, I need to get the trash
 1:32:01  container out to the road because there was one beside the office building that was jam-packed. The lid couldn't even
 1:32:09  close." And so I struggled and it was heavy. I have no idea what was in that trash container. I took it out to the
 1:32:17  front of the road and then couple hours later I watched a trash truck just go right just stop go right by. Did not pick it up.
 1:32:28  So I got on the phone with administration and at the utilities and asked why it didn't get picked up. I
 1:32:35  thought we had trash because the container was there. It was full.
 1:32:40  They asked me to give the number off the side of the container. I gave it off the side of the container. It was a
 1:32:46  container taken from a anart um property on Grant Street. So, it wasn't even the cemeteries trash container.
 1:32:58  I asked him, "What am I going to do with it? I don't know how to I don't know how to get this to you, and there is trash in there, and I have no clue what is in
 1:33:07  there. I don't want to dump it in my car and try to bring it." and they said, "Well, let let us see what we can do."
 1:33:15  So, a utility work truck came up to the end of their driveway. I ran I went out there and I met them and I said, "I'm
 1:33:23  sorry. I just don't know what to do with this." They said, "Well, we came to look at it and we're going to have a back
 1:33:30  loader dump truck come at the end of his route and they'll pick it up."
 1:33:37  I glanced out the window a couple hours later and the truck was there. Now, I had
 1:33:46  already started a pile of things at the end of the driveway for the cleanup that's going to be done on Saturday
 1:33:54  because they were going to come and get a bunch of that stuff. They started to pick up the office chair that was
 1:34:01  horrendous condition. And I went out there again and I said, "Sir," I said, "you don't have to pick that up. That's
 1:34:07  for the m maintenance um and the neighborhood cleanup on Saturday."
 1:34:15  He looked at me and he said, "That's the least we can do for you,
 1:34:22  for everything you're doing for us." They took two office chairs. They took a w a wooden desk.
 1:34:32  Three three mats and some other off miscellaneous things.
 1:34:39  That was a miracle and a blessing to me.
 1:34:43  The pet cemetery has always been bush hoged for the last years. Sometimes once a year, sometimes
 1:34:52  two, twice. That is now clean.
 1:34:59  The Pronau Lawn Care Service took care of it. It It's had its first cutting.
 1:35:06  It's going to need a little bit more cutting. They took out some bushes.
 1:35:11  There's still some bushes that need to be taken out, but there are headstones buried in those bushes. We have to take them out carefully. Those pets deserve something, too.
 1:35:23  There are headstones in that cemetery where you can see the tire tracks of the bush hog that ran right over it. She
 1:35:31  found some flower arrangements hidden in the weeds and it broke her heart. So she went and
 1:35:40  bought a flower arrangement to put on every headstone when they got done. People care.
 1:35:49  People want this taken care of.
 1:35:52  I have a crew from uh Sober Living House coming on Thursday morning at 9:30
 1:35:59  to help me move some things, get some things out to the corner so it can be picked up during the neighborhood
 1:36:08  cleanup. I also have a second home, sober living home, that's coming out Thursday evening.
 1:36:16  They want to say thank you to me because they're in my township already. have people that just are just saying, "Thank you. You heard our cry. You listened.
 1:36:28  You fought. And you pushed. And you got what is needed for us. However, volunteers are just a gift.
 1:36:37  They are a wonderful gift. They're a blessing. But we can't connect. We cannot
 1:36:45  just base all of our time, all of our efforts on volunteerism. You not you can't run a successful business or an
 1:36:53  endeavor solely on volunteers for an extended period of time. They live busy lives just like you and I do.
 1:37:01  Eventually, they go on and move.
 1:37:04  That's why I'm coming to you to for this one just this one $300,000 ask. Help me get over this hump.
 1:37:13  Not only is the conditions of the property itself horrendous, horrible,
 1:37:22  people weren't respected. I also ran into conditions where the finances of the cemetery were kept on a checkbook ledger.
 1:37:34  There's no invoices, no purchase orders, no paper trail, just the ledger.
 1:37:42  The records of the burials and plots are in 5x5 cards.
 1:37:47  I have file cabinets and books with just slips. I'll have to figure out where they are.
 1:37:55  I've done that already. And a couple people that have come to ask, now that you're taking it over,
 1:38:03  can we talk to you because we've been here before and didn't get any help and I found their spots.
 1:38:10  There's maps, historical maps, current maps, just rolled up and placed in a box.
 1:38:19  There's a half Dutch door between the living quarters and the office.
 1:38:26  The top half is gone. The bottom half was the only thing that was securing the records from the living quarters where a
 1:38:34  young man was staying there. He witnessed in city in superior court
 1:38:41  that he only stayed there on a couch. He slept on a couch two or three nights a week
 1:38:50  in helping in sitting there waiting for him to move his things out, which I thought I would just come in and would
 1:38:58  be a suitcase two or three times a night a week. you just bring your stuff with you from wherever you're living to stay overnight.
 1:39:08  He had been living there, he admitted to us that he had been living there for four years with five dogs.
 1:39:18  The five dogs he used, and I'll just say as politely as I can, use who use the walls as fire hydrants.
 1:39:27  The smell is overwhelming because I we also discovered
 1:39:34  I heard drip we heard dripping water. We open the kitchen cupboard door and there's no plumbing
 1:39:43  under the kitchen sink. Everything is running into a five gallallon bucket which is at multiple times looks like
 1:39:52  it's been overflowing because when you it is the
 1:39:59  black mold smell is unbelievable and you can see water outside on the outside of the building.
 1:40:06  There was dirt so thick on a on a folder sitting on the desk that I actually wrote my initials in it.
 1:40:16  Light fixtures are hanging by wires from the ceilings, not even attached. They're living in squalor.
 1:40:26  The office invited people from the community into squalor and ugliness and mess. I could
 1:40:35  go on and on, but I know that you have questions for me, probably more legal questions than anything at this point.
 1:40:45  And so I will I'll take those request those questions. But I also have my legal counsel. He's the expert of the
 1:40:52  law. He has been my champion through this whole year. His name is Ed Merchant and he will uh take any questions you have at this time.
 1:41:03  Thank you, Trusty Kaine. Any council members with questions?
 1:41:17  I I will just like to make a comment.
 1:41:20  Of course, I've I've spent hours out there myself, of course,
 1:41:28  for many, many years. I've invested time.
 1:41:38  My oldest sister invested time mowing out there. My mother, bless her heart, before she passed away would be out
 1:41:46  there also. Um, we've we've done this for years. We've invested
 1:41:53  literally hundreds if not thousands of dollars into that cemetery. Our our hearts are there. Um,
 1:42:01  we've talked to so many people that we've run into. I ran into
 1:42:08  an 80year-old lady that was pushing a lawnmower and I stopped
 1:42:15  uh because I had my lawnmowing equipment out there and I stopped with my trailer and I stopped to see if if I could help
 1:42:22  her finish up and she was just actually finished up and she started talking to me and just broke down in tears. Tears.
 1:42:33  This is this is one story of I I can't tell you how many people have
 1:42:40  that I've run into that Deb and I have run into that we spoke to that have actually just broken down in tears.
 1:42:47  They're they're just they were just beside themselves with with the utter
 1:42:56  the cemetery was just in an eyesore.
 1:43:02  And so with Center Township taking this over,
 1:43:10  this is the great thing. Um, this saves this saves the history. I can
 1:43:19  remember my parents mowing out there when I was probably seven or eight years old. Um, they
 1:43:26  actually had a contract to mow out there. And so, you know, I've been going out there for years and years and years.
 1:43:33  Of course, back then it was it was a wonderful place as a as a child to explore
 1:43:41  and the cannons and the mausoleiums. It was a beautiful, beautiful cemetery. And
 1:43:48  if you drive out there today, there's parts of that cemetery that's being restored. And you can you
 1:43:56  can see that. You can see the headstones. You can see the infant
 1:44:03  section of the cemetery that's in front of the large M mausoleum that that got
 1:44:11  mowed by volunteers actually by the one of the mowing crews that volunteered to mow extra.
 1:44:19  And I I I guess I guess you could say I'm an emotional person, but it brought me to
 1:44:28  tears because I've seen this I I've seen this cemetery in in utter disarray for so
 1:44:36  many years and and there's so many I tell you what, there are so many volunteers and people that spend their
 1:44:45  time out there. I see some in the I see some in the in the in the crowd tonight that spend time
 1:44:55  out there mowing and weed eating and doing their little part of trying to take care of a cemetery that's 100 acres. It's a huge project.
 1:45:06  Um but there's just not enough of us as volunteers to do it. And so
 1:45:13  saving this cemetery is what my wife
 1:45:21  Deborah can do as center township trustee. And I hope that you can trust her and I hope the public can trust her
 1:45:30  moving forward that she will do what she says she will
 1:45:36  do. Now, if anybody knows Deb, which I do, when she puts her mind to something, she
 1:45:44  makes it happen. And so, she's made a promise to this council, and you've made
 1:45:51  a promise to her last year that you would give her the money. and she's made a public commitment to this community,
 1:46:00  to Grant County, to people actually all over the United States that have contacted her from other states thanking
 1:46:09  her for what she's done. And so, as you consider this motion tonight, I hope you vote in favor of it. Thank you.
 1:46:22  Thank you, Councilman Kaine. other council members. Councilman Calgill, um
 1:46:30  I I have donated a lot of hours out there since Deb took it over because I know the monumental task and even though
 1:46:37  I've went through this journey and seen how she's done this over the last year, even I didn't realize the condition of
 1:46:46  this place until you really got out there and really took time to go in there and look at it. The building is
 1:46:54  I don't know how somebody ran a business. It's just horrendous.
 1:46:58  The condition of the cemetery is horrendous. Um
 1:47:05  there's they say there's I don't even know if we know the exact number yet, but like 40ome,000 people buried out there. For years,
 1:47:14  those people has been held hostage by a group that tried to do their best,
 1:47:22  but just wasn't able to do it, but wouldn't give it up. Deb took it on herself.
 1:47:29  She's releasing these people from being held captive for all these years. Let these people rest in peace. This council, we told her last year, if this
 1:47:38  is conveyed to you, we will give you the funds. So, she went through the process, went through the legal battle, you know,
 1:47:46  to get it done. And I sure as heck hope, I can't imagine anybody not once she's
 1:47:54  taken this now to not give her the funds. It's imperative that she gets this. There's been people volunteering, but you know what? That ain't going to
 1:48:02  last very long. And like David said, 100 acres, unbelievable. It's it's just the
 1:48:09  mowing and weeding in itself is is a job in itself. Um
 1:48:17  man, let's let's let's give these people the respect that they have been trying to get for 20 25 years at least, please.
 1:48:29  Thank you, Councilman Calg. Any other council members? Vice President Ford Ice.
 1:48:34  Yeah. Um, Deb, I applaud your due diligence on your acquisition. I know you fought hard for it and I know the
 1:48:41  council back then had decided uh they passed it if you got the uh possession of the cemetery.
 1:48:52  My only issue is times have changed with Senate Bill One. We just passed to
 1:48:59  increase the food and beverage tax to fund our parks department because we're not going to have the money to fund them. All of us just passed a new tax for our parks department.
 1:49:11  And we need that money because we're going to lose $3,359,879 from our property taxes.
 1:49:21  And we're also going to lose 1,500,000 from our lit taxes.
 1:49:27  So, we're going to be asked to make some really, really hard decisions coming here pretty quick. And the mayor has
 1:49:36  asked all department heads to cut 10% from their budget.
 1:49:41  So, that's difficult for those departments. I've talked to a lot of the departments. They don't have 10% left in their budget to cut out. It'll kneel it.
 1:49:50  So, it it's a very difficult situation and times have changed.
 1:49:55  But I also have to think about our city administration and department heads and our budget.
 1:50:03  And at some point in time, we're going to have to tighten the belt. The parks department, the board parks department
 1:50:11  has just approved and asked, Jim Brunner told me this. They're going to come to us for $500,000 for the splash house.
 1:50:20  It's in disarray. It needs repaired. the controllers's office is going to come to us for a h 100,000 for software.
 1:50:30  So at some point in time you can only keep taking out of this general fund before you're out of money.
 1:50:39  I mean I I understand her situation her due diligence but we have to put our priorities somewhere
 1:50:47  and we can't keep just giving money away. We're going to have to cut a lot of different organizations out that we've funded before.
 1:50:56  And I just ask you to think this through really hard because it's a tough decision. And I understand what she's
 1:51:05  faced with. It is in disarray. But you have to understand that that's the township trustees of the county's issue
 1:51:12  that they have to deal with also, but we have to deal with ours.
 1:51:18  So, with that being said, I I I just don't know where we're going to pull that money from
 1:51:26  because we're going to need every dime we're going to have in our general fund and that's coming down the pike real quick.
 1:51:34  Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you. Vice President Ford, go ahead. Just rebutt on that.
 1:51:40  Correct me. uh whichever council if the people that had it before could not maintain it, the township
 1:51:50  uh has to step in. If the township cannot maintain it, does it not then fall back onto the city that they are the last straw? They have to maintain it at that point.
 1:52:02  That's a great question. I don't know that statute actually contemplates that type of situation. What the statute does
 1:52:11  mandate is that the township provide care and maintenance for
 1:52:19  cemeteries within their region and if they don't believe it's
 1:52:26  the least infraction but it's
 1:52:34  her obligation was to do exactly what she statute and she's done it.
 1:52:41  And a lot of what we argued in court was the fact that we had secured this money
 1:52:50  for that maint
 1:53:04  but I was surprised to see your But that's where we are. We're dealing with a statuto mandate. He took it to court.
 1:53:17  He won that case and now we need the resources necessary in order
 1:53:24  to be obviously not there.
 1:53:33  May I speak also for the township? I am also hit by the government.
 1:53:40  I am not going to slide by with any hit. I can get I have
 1:53:48  30% 30%.
 1:53:53  You got that? 30% of my general budget can be mandated to go to roads and streets.
 1:54:01  When I help the indigent, the poor, and I have to give 30% of my budget to roads and streets.
 1:54:14  I need this one time $300, $300,000 to help me get over the hump of this
 1:54:22  initial care. Thank you, Councilman Klein. Thank you. First, as I
 1:54:29  recall, the $300,000 was to go provided that the township
 1:54:39  trustee got control of the property by the end of the year. And as I recall, there weren't any strings or exceptions
 1:54:47  to it. And that didn't happen. And and but but second, the bad news is that this cemetery is in terrible shape.
 1:54:58  their people who were in charge failed.
 1:55:00  The good news is that the township trustee now has control of the cemetery,
 1:55:08  which gives a heck of a lot of hope for the improvements at the place. But as we're all hearing, with that comes the
 1:55:16  cost of getting it done, which brings us again to tonight. City's being asked for money that one way or another would help
 1:55:25  pay for the improvements. And no doubt they're needed. Can't argue that. But by statute, as I've read it, it falls to
 1:55:34  the township trustee to maintain, repair, and care for the cemetery. And the township can levy a cemetery tax
 1:55:42  that can be used to clean up and fix up the place. And emotions are one thing shouldn't be ignored, but the facts are
 1:55:51  ignored at their own risk. and the township.
 1:55:54  I'm glad the case ended as it ended with the township getting the township trustee getting control,
 1:56:03  but um it's the township with the duty to care and the power to care for the cemetery.
 1:56:12  It's not our job. And finally, just to get it on the record, I expect I hope
 1:56:19  that any council member with a personal or financial relationship with the cemetery or any of the parties in this
 1:56:26  issue is going to abstain in voting on this. Thank you.
 1:56:31  Okay. Regarding text, one moment. One moment. Uh appreciate that uh comment and
 1:56:38  just to address the um abstension, I just want to defer to our council and would you please give us legal counsel on abstension on this?
 1:56:54  Indiana code has defined conflict of interest interest very narrowly and there are no board members that have uh
 1:57:01  under that current definition a pecuniary interest in the outcome uh of this uh because it's not a contract and
 1:57:09  no one is actually benefiting financially. So in Indiana code has written conflict of interest for this purpose very narrowly. What that means
 1:57:18  is that to the extent that there isn't a conflict uh under this then it's to be dealt with in the political arena rather
 1:57:25  than the legal arena. So it means that um if people want to vote or not vote then they will be held accountable at
 1:57:33  the ballot box rather than the courtroom.
 1:57:36  Isn't the township as an entity profiting from this? No, that's not how it reads.
 1:57:44  And more importantly, Miss Kane as trustee couldn't profit uh from it anyway as a public servant.
 1:57:52  Thank you. I just wanted to get the legal advice on that. Um may I speak to that profit?
 1:57:59  Uh sure. Go ahead.
 1:58:02  Any funds coming into the cemetery go into non-reverting fund before you? You have the resolution from the C S center
 1:58:11  township trustee board that stipulates and lays out what those
 1:58:18  funds are for. It cannot be used for anything else. I do not pocket any money. I can't even use it for my
 1:58:27  salary. I can't use it for my township office supplies. It is for the cemetery
 1:58:35  and it is laid out in in the ordinance that is in front of you. I cannot levy a tax. I don't have that option.
 1:58:46  I've already tried to speak with um Lori Goss Reeves rep the state representative.
 1:58:53  They don't they don't have a levy. I'm maxed out. There's only a percentage of a levy tax.
 1:59:01  I don't have a tax to levy.
 1:59:04  All right. Thank you. I just want to provide some clarity. Um it was mentioned several times that this was coming from the general fund. Part of your council
 1:59:13  packet included the additional appropriation 112025 and it states that it's coming out of the edit fund, not the general fund. Um
 1:59:21  I have discussed with the mayor about the edit fund request and that this
 1:59:28  money was um it's still left over from
 1:59:33  the previous year's edit funds. Um and so this is a request the official
 1:59:41  request that was in your council packet sent out last week. It's coming out of the edit fund, not the general fund. I just want some clarity on that.
 1:59:50  Any other council members? Go ahead, Councilman Marshall.
 1:59:54  Um, I I'm have a lot of mixed emotions about this whole topic. I I have loved
 2:00:02  ones in that cemetery, so personal interest in it and and it's I applaud you for all the efforts that both you
 2:00:09  and Dave have put forth to try and make that place presentable. Um, but I have a larger concern because you've alluded to
 2:00:16  yourself that you have nothing. you have no no means to support this endeavor.
 2:00:23  So, I feel like $300,000 is just a band-aid and is not going to
 2:00:33  lead to the long-term health of that. If you came to me, came to us and said you wanted $300,000 to put into a fund to
 2:00:42  generate income for future upkeep, that I think would make more sense. I I don't
 2:00:49  feel like we're gonna fix it. And I feel like even though this is a non-reverting fund, I feel like you're going to be back here in two years asking for more
 2:00:59  money. And so I don't think the city is really should be in the position of of fixing that in that way. So that's those are my thoughts.
 2:01:07  Can I respond to that, please?
 2:01:09  It is going to be put in a in a fund that earns interest.
 2:01:14  Okay. The entire $300,000 is going to go into a fund.
 2:01:18  Yes. It's going to be used, but it is going to get spent. It will be dispens not spent right away, sir. It
 2:01:25  will be used as I need it. It will it will be put in a fund that has interest.
 2:01:33  I am also procuring other funds. This but it will be spent. It'll be you you'll be drawing from the 300 thou 600,000 300,000 whatever it is. You'll
 2:01:42  be drawing funds from that. What I'm talking about is it never be touched.
 2:01:46  $300,000 in a community foundation fund that generates 13 or $14,000 a year.
 2:01:52  Those are the kinds of fixes I think we need to be looking at. Not one.
 2:01:58  Well, but you're not presenting that to us. You're you're coming asking for a one-time band-aid to help get things going in the right direction. And I I
 2:02:06  want a more comprehensive understanding of what what is it going to cost to run that place in a year? those kinds of issues, those those kinds of questions
 2:02:15  you have not I have faith that you are going to do your best to make it right, but I I think we deserve to understand
 2:02:22  what we're agreeing to and I feel like this is just the start of more asks.
 2:02:27  That's my honest feeling about it. I don't question what the effort that you have put into this and your interest in
 2:02:35  trying to make it not be the eyesore and uh embarrassment that has become to our community. So I don't I don't trust I
 2:02:43  don't I'm not questioning your motives or where you're at. I'm concerned about the long-term liabil or uh longevity of us maintaining
 2:02:52  you maintaining. How do you intend to meet the obligations of running a 100 acre cemetery? That's what I don't
 2:03:01  understand. I don't see that equation being presented to me. So, I have questions.
 2:03:07  Would you like me to give you the master plan? Is that what you're asking for?
 2:03:12  I I I want to make this is not sufficing. This is not answering the question. And I don't think answer the question of long term. How
 2:03:22  how are you going to after the $600,000 is gone? Then what? How much does it cost to keep the place going in a year?
 2:03:30  Those are kind of questions that you have not given to us.
 2:03:32  It costs $100,000 to keep the place going with lawn care.
 2:03:38  Okay. That's that's the first time I've heard that.
 2:03:39  That's $100,000. No, I I presented that in 2024 um in the packet. I I'm I'm sorry I
 2:03:48  failed to bring that again, but it's $100,000 for the lawn care. Now, there's going to be other fixes.
 2:03:55  And what what generates income? What income is generated from the burials? Okay. Selling applies.
 2:04:02  So, we anticipate how many in an average year do we have?
 2:04:05  I already have I already have three in just the week. I've only been there since Wednesday. Okay.
 2:04:11  I already have three burials. So there are burials happening. The pet cemetery is now open again. That's another source
 2:04:20  of income. There is a building that is on the property right now. That there was not a lease. There was nothing but a
 2:04:29  verbal commitment that says gentleman could store his business materials.
 2:04:35  He gave the cemetery a $75 discount when he dug the graves. I told him and I got a lease signed yesterday.
 2:04:46  That's another income that's going to come in because he understands I don't do I don't do anything without a paper
 2:04:54  trail without backing it up because I have state board of account. I have DLGF that requires reporting.
 2:05:02  I am saying that your 300,000 from the city. That's what this for. I have
 2:05:09  another ordinance for for grant county funds. I have a third ordinance for public funds. And that's where any other um any other commitments have been done.
 2:05:22  I spoke with a gentleman. I drove him around today. I asked him for 100,000.
 2:05:27  He's going to get back with me. I have many other people that are already committed.
 2:05:33  I have four grant writers. my three. I'm waiting on the fourth to start their paper to pencil. But I had to have
 2:05:42  control before I could do anything. I can't go out and get funds and get commitments
 2:05:50  just like this one. I couldn't get commitment from you in 2024 until I had control. I got the control.
 2:05:59  I know. I know. Without a doubt the astronomical financial
 2:06:07  load this is going to be and I know it's going to take a lot of fundraising. I already started it.
 2:06:16  I started it today. I have letters out.
 2:06:19  I talked to a lady from Texas. She she was coming through the cemetery
 2:06:26  and she is sending funds. So there are there are commitments already out there.
 2:06:32  I know it's astronomical. This 300,000 you might consider as a band-aid, but
 2:06:39  for the citizens of Marion because I can use a h 100,000 for lawn care and get the weeds down, get the lawn trimmed.
 2:06:51  That's a gift that they will never forget from you guys because it changes their lives. That
 2:06:59  means that no one has to go back out there with their lawnmower in their back of their car and lift a heavy lawn mower
 2:07:07  out at 89 at 80 years of age to mow their headstone.
 2:07:13  That's a gift. That's what you need to consider this. You're gifting everyone
 2:07:21  the ability to now go out to the cemetery and grieve and visit
 2:07:29  their loved ones without having the responsibility to take care of the situation or the grass or the wheat.
 2:07:42  Thank you. Um, if I may add, um, my understanding is that the request you have for us is a puzzle.
 2:07:51  Um, a piece of the puzzle. I fully understand 300,000 is not going to be enough. But I also understand that
 2:07:59  you're seeking other requests, county council, etc. Um, so I understand the larger picture. Uh, you said of 100,000 for maintenance for the year.
 2:08:09  um at an average of 8% return, you need about 1.2 million in a fund.
 2:08:15  We'll call it a principal preservation fund where you can live off of the um interest. Um so my hope is that you can
 2:08:23  get to the 1.2 or more. So that way you can operate that on the interest, which is exactly how a cemetery is supposed to
 2:08:30  run when they sell plots is they grow the endowment and basically the interest pays the operations. And that's
 2:08:38  unfortunately what the downfall of that cemetery was, the corruption and depletion of those funds a long long
 2:08:45  time ago. I also wanted to add that uh I know when we passed this last year and we gave a deadline, I fully understood
 2:08:53  that there could be possible tactics involved in the other party that was involved um because they knew if we could push this beyond that date maybe
 2:09:02  maybe this can change the minds. Um I am somewhat familiar. I've kept in touch with Miss Kaine about this process and
 2:09:09  every time I was in contact with her this the other party involved um found every way to de delay delay delay either
 2:09:18  not showing up to court attorney not showing up to court making excuses delay delay delay that's all their tactic was
 2:09:26  was to delay and I fully believe and I in my heart that that part of that tactic was to to wear Miss Kane out and
 2:09:35  make her give but also to um maybe have her give up because she thought maybe she wouldn't get the funding from those
 2:09:43  entities that had committed to it. Um the you know I've read some of the judgment
 2:09:52  that came down from um the judge in this case and a lot of I think I I would venture to
 2:10:01  ay the decision to award this to Miss Kaine, the trustee Kaine was predicated on the commitment that came from this
 2:10:08  council and the county council is that she presented I have commitments for funds
 2:10:15  um which I'm sure probably, you know, helped persuade the the judge to award it to her knowing that, hey, if this
 2:10:23  happens, there's a commitment. We know you're going to be a steward of the money. One other thing I wanted to add is that this cemetery is not about trustee Kane.
 2:10:34  This cemetery or or not matter about the care of trustee Kane. This is about the center trusted center township trustees
 2:10:42  office because one day I'm sure she'll want to retire and somebody else is going to take that role and they're going to be held accountable. This
 2:10:49  cemetery now has accountability through votes because it's an elected position and um I'm sure Miss Kane will do her
 2:10:58  absolute best to get this cemetery preserved. But if the next trustee comes in and doesn't do their job, well then
 2:11:06  you know what? everyone lives in that township has a say and they can vote them out and say look at our cemetery.
 2:11:12  Um I applaud Miss Kaine for for her perseverance.
 2:11:19  Um those grounds out there in that cemetery have literally are soaked with
 2:11:26  blood, sweat, and tears from family members and trustee Kane. I had the opportunity to go out there today. I appreciate you accommodating me. I asked
 2:11:35  if I could come out and take a look at the cemetery and the building. Um, and the condition of that building probably would qualify for our um to be demolition.
 2:11:45  Um, because it was that disgusting.
 2:11:48  Literally from the outside you could smell and see. I thought it was sewage coming through, but it was from under the sink
 2:11:56  in the kitchen going to the outside. Um, uh, it's the first time I've ever been in that cemetery. I don't have any
 2:12:04  family there. I have no connections there. And um first, yeah, first time I've really gone in there. I drove by
 2:12:11  and I could not believe what I saw. Just the number of dead trees and headstones knocked over. Um you know, the Mr.
 2:12:20  McCulla is buried there. Didn't realize he was our first governor, I guess. I mean, there's just the history is insane
 2:12:27  out there. Um, I understand that the the bigger motive in this, Trusty Kaine, is to build a fund up to create a principal
 2:12:36  preservation or an endowment fund to then be able to operate off of the future. And I um am happy to lend my
 2:12:44  support um for this. I I will say too, I fully understand what Vice President um
 2:12:51  Ford says about Senate Bill One. That's why I wanted to clarify this is edit fund money. um not general fund money. I
 2:12:59  have concerns over Senate Bill one. We have some upcoming meetings to talk with our legislators about this and hope that some things can be tweaked, adjusted in
 2:13:07  the next legislative s session that's fair to all. Um but at the end of the day, I made a commitment. I know we had
 2:13:14  a deadline. Um but I knew that the other part in this would delay and delay delay and to hope to wear her out and and the
 2:13:22  rest of us to give up. Um, also, you know, I feel as a representative, that's essentially what
 2:13:31  we all are. I've said this the last time. I feel like if I asked anybody in
 2:13:39  the city, uh, well, actually, I'll just say this. All I have to do is read the comments on Facebook. Let's just say that. and the comments. I don't know if
 2:13:48  I've read one negative comment about the the takeover of the cemetery. In fact, it's it's people have probably
 2:13:56  cried over what they've typed on their computers or their phones uh about what has happened and and the takeover. So, I feel an obligation as a city being this is in our city limits.
 2:14:06  We've made a committed to blighted properties. Um, and for my my perspective, this is a commitment to restore a blighted property and put it
 2:14:15  into the hands of the center township trustes office for future and forever accountability.
 2:14:22  That's all I have. Any other council members?
 2:14:28  And I would also say this is first reading. So, Trusty Kaine, if between now and the next reading, if you wanted to resend some of that information that
 2:14:37  you provided before to the rest of the council, be happy to disseminate that um or any other plans you use to do with
 2:14:44  this money or where else you plan to get funding so that other council members can kind of see the bigger picture of, you know, this isn't just the one
 2:14:52  $300,000 that you're going for. So, um, if no other council members have questions, is there a motion?
 2:15:03  I'll make that motion to approve additional appropriation 11-2025. Second.
 2:15:11  Motion by um, Councilwoman Divine to approve additional appropriation 11 2025. Second by Councilman Calgill. Any other discussion?
 2:15:22  Madame Deputy Clerk, roll call.
 2:15:27  Kane, I.
 2:15:28  Marshall, I.
 2:15:30  For ice, no.
 2:15:32  Runner, I.
 2:15:33  Klein, no. Divine. Yes. Whitten. Yes. Calgill. I. Mckenley.
 2:15:38  Yes. Additional appropriation 112025 will move to a second hearing. Um, public hear second reading public hearing uh at our August 5th meeting.
 2:15:50  And that ends the agenda. I do have just two announcements on here. The next citywide cleanup is this Saturday,
 2:15:59  um July 19th. That's District 4. That's Air Councilman Marshall's district from 9:00 a.m. to 2 PM. Again, put yourself out at the curb, not in the alleyway.
 2:16:09  Also, I forgot to say thank you um Ed Merchant for being on the call and hanging out with us today. Uh but you're free to hang up if you'd like. So, thank
 2:16:16  you so much for taking time out. uh you allowing me to be here and good to see everybody.
 2:16:22  Thank you. Um so July 19th again this Saturday, reminder, put your things at the curb, not in the alley. They don't
 2:16:29  pick up in the alleys and no tires, TVs, fridges, and all that. And also uh fire station one groundbreaking um which is
 2:16:37  July 22nd, next Tuesday at 1 p.m. I apologize. I'll be out of town. I wish I could be there. Um, but uh the public is
 2:16:46  welcome to go to that fire station one groundbreaking downtown. It's at 1:00 p.m. July 22nd. If you forget that, just download the My Marion app on your
 2:16:55  phone. It's got all the information you need on it. So, any other council members with announcements?
 2:17:01  I forgot one other uh the Sunny Crest um neighborhood rummage sale is July 18th
 2:17:10  and 19th from 8:00 am to 5:00 pm. That was given to me before this meeting. So, if you're in the Sunny Crest Wesley
 2:17:17  neighborhood, u or if you're not, go to the rumage sale July 18th, 19th, 8 a.m.
 2:17:22  to 5:00 pm. Any other council members with announcements?
 2:17:25  All right, I'd entertain a motion to adjourn. I move that we adjourn.
 2:17:31  Second motion by Councilman Kane, second by Councilman Brunner. Any discussion? Madame Deputy Clerk, roll call.
 2:17:39  Kane, I.
 2:17:40  Marshall, I. Borise. I.
 2:17:42  Brunner. I Klein. Yes. Divine. Yes. Whitten. Yes. Calgill.
 2:17:49  I McKinley. Yes. Meetings adjourned. The council members.
 2:17:53  Council members, please don't leave before you need to sign some documents. Thank you. Don't leave until you sign.